me i slowly came to see religion was a crutch we use to dream of a better "afterlife"....i feel half my life was wasted building an organisation that had no criminal mastermind behind it...just alot of mislead people looking for leadership.
if your still religious explain why..
WITNESS 007:
Right. And how could it, possibly?
Religious type studies have no practical application in the everyday world of commerce and business, etc. They aren’t designed for critical thinking and dealing with life. That might explain how years ago it was men in monasteries who pondered over these things.
If everybody did what JWs suggest everybody should do 🙄….absolutely nothing else would get done! There wouldn’t be crops, inventions or anything else for that matter.
me i slowly came to see religion was a crutch we use to dream of a better "afterlife"....i feel half my life was wasted building an organisation that had no criminal mastermind behind it...just alot of mislead people looking for leadership.
if your still religious explain why..
WITNESS 007:
After I walked away from the JW religion I gradually became an agnostic. I was raised Catholic and got involved with JWs as a young adult.
My bad experience in the JWs turned me off religion in general. I have no use for any of it. To me, religions are a place where some people look to lord over others and also, sadly, where some unscrupulous individuals are looking for an easy life where they don’t have to work like other human beings.
But, to each his own. Some people want to jump into another belief system. Let them. I don’t ‘need’ to belong to anything or ‘go’ anywhere.
so imagine a governining body member faithful slave who's uncle wrote the new world translalation bible and predicted 1975 would be armagedon writes a book in 1980 that changed my whole life...thank you raymond franz for setting me and my wife free love this man forever.
true pioneer!
👍 love ❤️ .
DISILLUSIONED JW:
You could try your local library and might get lucky..However, I heard years ago that books critical of the JW religion have frequently been known to just ‘disappear’ from local libraries!..Gee I wonder why? 😒
You might be better off either ordering it online if you want your own copy or have somebody lend you theirs.
two wt pictures of an adult child leaving home, one to be a jw, and one to leave the jws.
in one, the caption says his family are 'opposing' him, but in the other he's apparently hurting them.
depends on where you're standing.. .
FOOLEDNOMORE & SMILES:
I’m glad common sense ruled when you realized that nobody was going to look out for you except you. I pulled young pioneers aside and privately told them they better plan for the future. I hope some did.
I don’t know how any of that older generation could look at themselves in the mirror after they preached poverty for gullible younger people - meanwhile they were living in the lap of luxury..Most went to their graves after living a cushy life!
Words cannot describe how thankful I am that I did not listen. The religion is hateful with the attitudes they engendered in the congregations, and they can never be forgiven. But, I’m glad that I resisted the pressure..Whether this was because I wasn’t raised a JW, who knows..But, I’m glad to not be there now. Anybody who looks halfway decent will be targeted left and right..No way I’d tolerate being around this.
two wt pictures of an adult child leaving home, one to be a jw, and one to leave the jws.
in one, the caption says his family are 'opposing' him, but in the other he's apparently hurting them.
depends on where you're standing.. .
SMILES:
Your referring to them ‘distancing believers from other believers’ just highlights to me the class distinctions within the Witness religion. I was well aware of those class distinctions back then when I was criticized for having my full-time job.
I was considered an outcast and ‘not spiritual’ 🙄 because I didn’t ‘pioneer’. They made sure I was ignored and not invited anywhere…But, I paid no attention to all the criticism.. And when the time came, I Retired..Hopefully today in 2022, all these self-righteous critics who wouldn’t be caught dead with a full-time job..can pay their bills.
If these people are needy/can’t put food on their table they BETTER call someone who cares, namely their so-called spiritual friends who they should have on speed dial.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/home-and-garden/jehovahs-witnesses-to-resume-in-person-services-opt-not-to-resume-door-to-door-ministry/ar-aavnxv0 .
so apparently robert hendricks the spin doctor of the wt society has been proudly telling news channels how wonderful the wt org has been during the 2 years of the pandemic, checking in with each and every member to meet their needs on a weekly basis.. except, based on the comments of former jw friends on facebook, it's news to most of them since they are screaming out that they were totally neglected by the elders/ms throughout most of that period.
a couple even said that because of being ignored by the congregation during this time, that they have walked away completely.
SMILES:
Well, how about that? They were referring people to a contact list of OTHER sources of charity..🙄
In my opinion, this situation with all the ‘needy’ people in the JW religion is almost like a powder keg or ‘perfect storm’ of chaos.
You have far TOO many people in that one place looking for charity!!..There are the run-of-the-mill types who worked at so-so jobs and don’t have much; then those who pioneered and didn’t prepare for retirement (a disaster); then those who got kicked out of bethels over the last decade or so who need jobs; then you have those with serious ‘issues’ brought into the religion in recent years to fill empty seats; now, you have those who lost jobs because of Covid and/or who got sick because of it or the vaccines, etc..All in all, there are too many people with their hands out.
This is an awful situation and one which makes me very Glad I got out of this religion decades ago!
first off, i have made it real clear with jw's my thoughts on being a jw.
i'm out, there is no coming back.. second, i'm on their " do not call list" .. so why now all of a sudden my mailbox is getting bombed 💣 by their memorial invites and letters?.
don't they follow their do not call list?
FOOLEDNOMORE:
Yes, no doubt this makes you more attractive. In this world you have to be mindful of this.
I’m sure other inactive people might also get letters and invitations to come back to the JW religion. However, you can bet your bottom dollar that somebody who is succes$ful is more sought after than somebody who isn’t. That’s just the way it is.
first off, i have made it real clear with jw's my thoughts on being a jw.
i'm out, there is no coming back.. second, i'm on their " do not call list" .. so why now all of a sudden my mailbox is getting bombed 💣 by their memorial invites and letters?.
don't they follow their do not call list?
FOOLEDNOMORE:
Oh, I might be able to think of a rea$on. 😉
Didn’t you reveal here that your family has a business and you are economically successful and drive a nice vehicle? Hopefully, I don’t have you confused with another poster here.
If that describes you, then word must have gotten around on the JW gossip circuit. They would love the pleasure of your ‘association’ 😈. Hence all the letters and invitations.
so imagine a governining body member faithful slave who's uncle wrote the new world translalation bible and predicted 1975 would be armagedon writes a book in 1980 that changed my whole life...thank you raymond franz for setting me and my wife free love this man forever.
true pioneer!
👍 love ❤️ .
WING COMMANDER:
Thanks for the clarification.
TRUTH_B_KNOWN:
I also felt it was the best book they published! I loved the actual bible book of James so much that I actually copied it in longhand back in the days when I was a ‘believer’.
so imagine a governining body member faithful slave who's uncle wrote the new world translalation bible and predicted 1975 would be armagedon writes a book in 1980 that changed my whole life...thank you raymond franz for setting me and my wife free love this man forever.
true pioneer!
👍 love ❤️ .
WITNESS 007:
I was already Out and into my ‘Fade’ from the Witness religion when I read Crisis of Conscience.
Reading this validated All that I experienced in the religion. It was an eye-opener to see the inner workings of the religion as experienced from an insider. His experience resembled a communist dictatorship complete with anonymous snitches. You never knew who your accusers were. How funny that what happens in congregations pretty much resembles what happens in HQ..The whole thing resembles a totalitarian regime.
All in all, it was a great expose of the JW religion and we can all thank this man for telling the world!
RAYMOND FRANTZ:
I loved that book Commentary on James. At the time I couldn’t imagine why they pulled it. Now we know why!
