any news how things are at bethel just now?
been thinking, strange they have gb members giving speeches when they look so depressed.
but maeby there is not many others too choose from.
FISHERMAN:
…Further to what I said: if the ‘negative’ you were talking about refers to somebody’s advanced age or some other factor they can’t help - this is still about downsizing and getting rid of people, in my opinion.
It’s just a question of WHO to get rid of!
any news how things are at bethel just now?
been thinking, strange they have gb members giving speeches when they look so depressed.
but maeby there is not many others too choose from.
FISHERMAN:
While I agree that what you say may be the case on a secular job, I doubt this is what has been happening at the bethels. Maybe here and there it could be about somebody’s ‘negative’ attitude..But not this.
No, I think these people were gotten rid of because of downsizing, pure and simple. The economy is atrocious, fewer contributions and restructuring are probably what contributed to it.
While I don’t like the religion and don’t care for people who helped to publish literature that knocked careers, it is certainly terrible to have to start over and function in the ‘world’ in late middle age!!! A young guy might be on his feet in a few years. Somebody who is 55+ will have a hard time.
Ironically, If they worked for secular employers (that they knocked), they’d at least have gotten a payout plus they would have paid into Social Security. But, No, they are just joining the rest of the ‘needy’ people in the congregations looking for handouts. Glad I’m not around this!
any news about how going back to kingdom halls and door to door ministry going right now?
are there many people at meetings and meetings before going out in service as congregation?.
ROAD TO NOWHERE:
Don’t laugh. Even if the rifle on your wall didn’t shoot and belonged to your grandfather, if Witnesses on Zoom saw it they would comment and you would get a phone call saying it ‘stumbled’ people and you must remove it.
I don’t know about anybody else, but I would refuse to tolerate this intrusiveness and commentary. The camera would be Off..on principle alone.
As SMIDDY3 says:..anybody who would put up with this should have their heads examined. Sadly, JWs are like the proverbial frogs in the hot water who don’t realize they are slowly being boiled. This is what happens when personal boundaries are broken down and people don’t speak up. I would have spoken up and been considered a ‘problem’.
This is just one of many reasons I’m Glad I’m Out of the religion.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/new-zealand-government-tries-seize-guardianship-baby-parents-demand-unvaccinated-blood-surgery.
i swear to allah how the hell do ex-dubs not see through these anti vax grifters and con men.
the whole pandemic to me has been nothing but a huge pstd trip back to my childhood.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:
Very sad situation. Many people just don’t know what to think about the Covid vax. Is it or is it not safe?
Somebody is still applying the term ‘anti-vaxxer’ to people who just don’t want the Covid vax. That’s okay. I’ll just post my own comment:..True anti-vaxxers are against the childhood vaccines most of us have gotten.
lol .
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17 - some of the “great crowd” are now serving in position of “princes,” .
DESIROUSOFCHANGE & DIOGENESISTER:
Very funny 🤣 but you nailed it. That’s about the size of it.
Even when I was active in the JW religion, it didn’t sit well with me that these modern-day aspiring ‘princes’ would somehow be elevated over the faithful ones from old times.
I didn’t really buy it..among other things.
pimo , as i said i`m going out on a limb here and i might upset some people ,but i really don`t think this is a real strategy that works and doesn`t help the person who is still in.. while you may be doing this to keep the peace in the household and keep relations somewhat stable in the family arrangement ,it`s not helping the person who is still under the control of wt/gb to break free from it ,and isn`t that what you would really like to happen ?.
and are their children involved as well ?
that`s another issue ,the longer they are subject to this control the harder it will be for them to disengage get free.. maybe you should re-evaluate what you could do more to help your partner / spouse or whatever to free themselves from this bondage they have involved themselves in.. [ of course their may be others who are quite happy to have their partners/mates under the control of the wt/gb.
SMIDDY3:
I agree with you and think the PIMO strategy (physically In and mentally Out) should best be used by somebody who is ‘Fading’ from the Witness religion and quickly headed for the door.
What I imagine is the worst is if somebody is a PIMO and still serving as an elder and has no intention of leaving!!!.. This is total hypocrisy!.. Not only is this religion the pits - but there are so many phonies and fakers it’s hard to even know what the REAL number of believing JWs is.
lol .
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17 - some of the “great crowd” are now serving in position of “princes,” .
HELLOTHERE:
You’re not kidding about them going off script and spouting their own opinions. These stupid opinions end up becoming ‘law’ in the religion.
Unfortunately, this is what makes up a lot of the so-called JW religion:..somebody’s opinions. They have gone waay beyond ‘what is written’.. I, for one, was not interested in anybody’s personal interpretation about anything.
As for the thread topic about ‘princes’ in the religion: it disturbed me to see how they were trying to ‘elevate’ the elders over time.. But, that didn’t work on me as I couldn’t help but see them as they really were.
i spent most of my life in the org.
we were taught that our purpose in life was to serve jehovah.
that never really made sense to me, but it was still a purpose to keep going.
TITCH:
I agree with your post about the cat and the baby!😊
PUNKOFNICE:
I think you are right about what religion is: men that don’t want to work like other people do and who want an easy living.
I don’t know that there is really a ‘purpose’ in life as some people put it. It sounds like your life is filled with some interesting activities. Which is what all of us should seek out..Yes, life can be gloomy sometimes but we try to brighten our mood somehow.
All through the ages people had to worry about staying alive and putting food on their table for themselves and their families. That was their purpose. Those born under feudalism were in servitude to some landowner! They didn’t have the luxury of worrying about what their ‘purpose’ was. They didn’t have a choice: somebody else made it for them.
I think that some people who come out of the JWs or the military are used to somebody else telling them what to do! Somebody ELSE gave them ‘purpose’ if you want to call it that. There are many good suggestions in the posts here..If somebody is young enough they should enroll in college and that might give them some ideas about what to do in life.
any news about how going back to kingdom halls and door to door ministry going right now?
are there many people at meetings and meetings before going out in service as congregation?.
PUNKOFNICE:
This thing about having Zoom cameras on so they can not only see you but also see into somebody’s home, was bound to cause problems for the rank & file JWs. It was inevitable.
This only allowed ‘bullies’ in the religion to believe that somebody’s home is an extension of the kingdom hall, which it is not. That’s why my JW friends turned their camera off and I agree with them!.. Anybody else who doesn’t mind this can have the world look into their life and home.. To each his own.
any news how things are at bethel just now?
been thinking, strange they have gb members giving speeches when they look so depressed.
but maeby there is not many others too choose from.
HIDDLESWIFE:
Wow, is it REALLY true that they have ‘guards with guns and other ammo’??
If this is really true (I’m not calling you a liar or anything but sometimes things are just speculation), it means they live in an armed fortress.
What about them criticizing other people with guns for self-defense, etc.?????
