There are two stories floating around. One is that they were there helping out afterwards (I don't know in what capacity). The other story is that they were asked to leave and were perceived as a nuisance.
It depends on who you ask.
LongHairGal
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JWs and 9/11
by Jeannine ini am not a jw and neither is anyone in my family.
however, i married into a jw family.
my husband was raised jw, but was never baptised.
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LongHairGal
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Is God Uncaring and Hardhearted?
by Blueblades inmany people think that the answer to that question is yes.
( from the new book released at the dc.
) forget about what the watchtower teaches, what do you think about the question yourself, if you believe in god?
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LongHairGal
In answer to the original question of the post, I would have to say yes. There are those who would disagree with me saying that there is the ransom sacrifice, etc. but I have a problem with something. His "loving" provision is passive and not active. Of course, some will argue about how we have free will. Well, free will without having accurate facts laid out is not fair at all. Not to mention the fact that we have but so many years to live and therefore just so many chances to exercise this free will, etc. If you waste several decades in a wrong pursuit because you were misled then you have that much less time to find the "right way". You see? None of this is fair and I could go on and on with examples.
I had read somewhere that there might be proof that humans lived much, much longer than is currently believed. It makes it almost sound as if god did this all before (who knows how many times) and decided to do it yet again. We are just captives to an awful experiment that he is going to keep doing till he gets it right. There are those who might say that I should be grateful that I even have life no matter what the real story is. Well, that may be true. I AM grateful for my life but I have a real problem believing that god is really a loving god.
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JWS leading a double life
by greendawn indo you know (or have you ever known) of apparently loyal or even fanatical jws that lead a double life?
they may appear godly and obedient but in secret they bend the rules eg by fornication, cheating etc
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LongHairGal
As far as "double lives" go, I suspect that some of the couples fool around before they get married and then later on confess it to the elders.
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Very Very sad. Typical Jdub Love
by Ticker ini wanted to share this recent incident and it really pi$$es me off.
i called my grandfather yesterday who is a believing but inactive jw due to health reasons.
he is 83 and in very poor health and is alone since his wife died 3 years ago.
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LongHairGal
Ticker:
I am sorry to hear about what your relative is experiencing at the hands of the most loving people in the world (now let me go throw up!!)
I don't care if I have to say this a thousand times. Their "love" is conditional. That means it was never real love in the first place. Let me repeat: IT WAS NEVER REAL!! (It is akin to the "friendship" some people think they have on a secular job only LESS so. It is not the real thing but a facsimile. It is simply forced phoniness or obligation.)
In spite of this sometimes real love or friendships can develop. The sad part is that it is precarious.
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Being told the expression "We're All in the Same Boat"
by LongHairGal ini used to hate hearing the expression "we're all in the same boat".
usually it came up in conversation when you were discussing the state of the world and financial affairs, etc.
i used to particularly hate it when it came from somebody (usually an elder) who had a business and a great deal of money.
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JT:
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NO LONGER SATISFIED AS I WAS, WITH JWD FORUM
by outoftheorg inno this is not another { i am leaving this forum }.
it is just that i no longer am so hungry for the many posts as i once was.
i could not wait to get home and sign on to read all the posts from newbies and the heavy hitters.
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LongHairGal
OutoftheOrg:
I am sorry to hear that you are really hurting. Family situations can really send you into a tailspin and are so depressing. Don't give up, hang in there. (I don't mean to sound trite). As far as the board not being satisfying I think it goes through phases. Sometimes it is good and sometimes it is just ho-hum. Some posts are interesting but some I find myself afraid to reply to because I am afraid some will misunderstand or "flame" me. I believe some people here are super-afraid of being judged and they are apt to jump all over some poster who says something that maybe pricks their conscience or arouses their anger. So, you may not have the freeness of speech you thought you would have. Somehow things look more harsh in print than if they are uttered in person or over the phone.
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Rape, two witnesses, DNA, and rape kit
by Fatfreek inforgive, please, if this has been asked.
my google wasn't much help.. does the society yet recognize dna, a rape kit, etc., as evidence that could supplant a "second witness" which they have always insisted on?.
fats
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LongHairGal
A brother once told me that a sister who wore a short skirt and got raped
would get disfellowshipped.
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Being told the expression "We're All in the Same Boat"
by LongHairGal ini used to hate hearing the expression "we're all in the same boat".
usually it came up in conversation when you were discussing the state of the world and financial affairs, etc.
i used to particularly hate it when it came from somebody (usually an elder) who had a business and a great deal of money.
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LongHairGal
I used to hate hearing the expression "we're all in the same boat". Usually it came up in conversation when you were discussing the state of the world and financial affairs, etc.
I used to particularly hate it when it came from somebody (usually an elder) who had a business and a great deal of money.
As far as I am concerned, we are NOT all in the same boat. Some are on a luxury yacht, some on an ocean liner, and very many of us are in a little rubber life raft! -
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A question I've asked an elder as a kid, he never gave an answer
by zagor inthe question was, "so if things are going to be returned to as they were in eden does that mean that we all are going to be naked again and that we won't need any clothing.".
it is very uncomfortable thought for many dubs.
it is not only to do with "immorality" as such (though many naturalists would vouch that it being naked has nothing to do with it anyway).
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LongHairGal
I used to wonder about this myself. But it is quite possible their naked condition was never meant to be permanent. What I mean is: if it was just Adam and Eve around, so what if they were naked? They were, after all, married to each oither.
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No part of this world?
by gringojj ini understand that the wts has investments, stocks, real esate, mortgage company, car sales, finance company, publishing company, and i am sure they have other interest that i dont know about.
how can they say they are no part of this world?
they make a big deal that they dont vote in elections, but isnt having all these investments in business just as bad?
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LongHairGal
StopthePain:
You are right about everything you said.
In fact, their claim that they are no part of the world is the least of what is wrong with them. I have also gritted my teeth in anger at their asking for money to renovate perfectly good halls and hypocritically telling the guy at the bottom to "do without". They are simply full of shit about everything.