first off, i have made it real clear with jw's my thoughts on being a jw.
i'm out, there is no coming back.. second, i'm on their " do not call list" .. so why now all of a sudden my mailbox is getting bombed š£ by their memorial invites and letters?.
don't they follow their do not call list?
FOOLEDNOMORE:
Oh, I might be able to think of a rea$on. š
Didnāt you reveal here that your family has a business and you are economically successful and drive a nice vehicle? Hopefully, I donāt have you confused with another poster here.
If that describes you, then word must have gotten around on the JW gossip circuit. They would love the pleasure of your āassociationā š. Hence all the letters and invitations.
so imagine a governining body member faithful slave who's uncle wrote the new world translalation bible and predicted 1975 would be armagedon writes a book in 1980 that changed my whole life...thank you raymond franz for setting me and my wife free love this man forever.
true pioneer!
š love ā¤ļø .
WING COMMANDER:
Thanks for the clarification.
TRUTH_B_KNOWN:
I also felt it was the best book they published! I loved the actual bible book of James so much that I actually copied it in longhand back in the days when I was a ābelieverā.
so imagine a governining body member faithful slave who's uncle wrote the new world translalation bible and predicted 1975 would be armagedon writes a book in 1980 that changed my whole life...thank you raymond franz for setting me and my wife free love this man forever.
true pioneer!
š love ā¤ļø .
WITNESS 007:
I was already Out and into my āFadeā from the Witness religion when I read Crisis of Conscience.
Reading this validated All that I experienced in the religion. It was an eye-opener to see the inner workings of the religion as experienced from an insider. His experience resembled a communist dictatorship complete with anonymous snitches. You never knew who your accusers were. How funny that what happens in congregations pretty much resembles what happens in HQ..The whole thing resembles a totalitarian regime.
All in all, it was a great expose of the JW religion and we can all thank this man for telling the world!
RAYMOND FRANTZ:
I loved that book Commentary on James. At the time I couldnāt imagine why they pulled it. Now we know why!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/home-and-garden/jehovahs-witnesses-to-resume-in-person-services-opt-not-to-resume-door-to-door-ministry/ar-aavnxv0 .
so apparently robert hendricks the spin doctor of the wt society has been proudly telling news channels how wonderful the wt org has been during the 2 years of the pandemic, checking in with each and every member to meet their needs on a weekly basis.. except, based on the comments of former jw friends on facebook, it's news to most of them since they are screaming out that they were totally neglected by the elders/ms throughout most of that period.
a couple even said that because of being ignored by the congregation during this time, that they have walked away completely.
SMILES:
Are you serious?š¤£ I have never in my life heard of the JW religion itself offering financial assistance to anybody in need!ā¦To my knowledge, only the churches of Christendom have any sort of real charity or assistance.
The only thing I know about Witnesses (having experienced it) is that somebody goes around privately with an envelope and corners āresponsibleā types to give money for whoever..Some people cornered may resent this because they got criticized for working and they may refuse..I know I NOW would and itās just as well Iām no longer around these people!
a friend of mine told me that her witness relative from west coast had reacted to minions (child animation) in a same way that some jdubs reacted to smurfs.. aka she claimed that minions are "from satan".. has anyone else heard this?.
well i guess harry potter, lotr etc has received similar recption....nothing new in that sense..
FOOLEDNOMORE:
Wow, I canāt believe somebody was stupid enough to actually come out and say this: Donāt Think. Weāll do it for you.š
This is an insult to anybodyās intelligence in the most literal sense of the word. I always said the JW religion hates thinking people with a passion!
https://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/.
more than one-third of muslims (39%), white mainline protestants (37%), buddhists (37%), and the religiously unaffiliated (36%) have at least a four-year college degree.
another 19% are catholic, 2% are latter-day saint, and less than 1% each are jehovahās witnesses or orthodox christians.
VIDIOT:
I totally agree.
I also considered the door-to-door work a visible yardstick by which JWs would measure somebody elseās āspiritualityā š. It gave them a standard by which to judge.. And they are all about judgmentalism!
It was their āclaim to fameā..But, I never considered it to be of any real value and secretly thought it rather silly and a waste of time and gas. I wasnāt reached by this method. As far as it being a ālifesaving workā, I never believed this either. Any REAL important lifesaving work would use the media.
The only thing I got out of door-to-door was the enjoyment of seeing peopleās beautiful landscaping and property especially in the Spring - and the visit to the diner afterwards!
damned if you do, damned if you don't: religious shunning and the free exercise clause.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
I just spoke to some PIMI women in the religion. They are old friends and know Iām āOutā and sort of understand because they have a relative who was mistreated for almost the same reason I was: having a full-time job. Their Witness extended family is pulled apart in strife with this one not talking to that one, etc. There are grown nieces and nephews shunned by parents who appear willing to go to their graves rather than reconcile or at least be civil to their children who didnāt stay in the āTruthā š.
I am appalled at this and am so grateful I wasnāt raised a JW!ā¦Me being shunned as a āFaderā makes absolutely No difference to me since I luckily have no relatives in that religion..I think this group could probably go down in history for their shunning routine. I know the Amish do this but they are an isolated community whereas JWs can be anywhere. Shunned JWs or ex-JWs oftentimes suffer from depression, canāt hold down a job, end up needing therapy, etc. and who knows how this all ends?
What a tragedy this shunning routine is! š
https://rcbizjournal.com/2022/03/22/watchtower-urging-ramapo-to-act-on-its-application/?fbclid=iwar2akhf6eq1rrmhihrz4fqdqmf99l_jmkh7pcx70p6olunqfrvuspomer-e. by tina traster.
march 22, 2022. over the past eight months, the watchtower bible and tract society has reviewed public and other comments on its proposed development for 155 sterling mine road in ramapo and has revised its plans.. on monday, the applicant was prepared to present its feis (final environmental impact statement) and hoped the ramapo town board would accept its submission as āfinal,ā to move on to review by the rockland county planning department.. instead, the board deferred making decisions, seemingly because they did not have enough time to review some newly submitted documents by the activist group rosa.. āweāre asking the board to take action on the āfeisā,ā said attorney ira emanuel.
āif you donāt like it, change it.
WING COMMANDER:
I totally agree with your post.
Reading this makes me glad I never took anything the JW religion said seriously.. I made sure I planned for MY retirement/old age. After all, they have planned for theirs with these compounds they have with all the amenities!! ..As for physical fitness: common sense tells you to care for yourself and keep your trap shut about how you do it.
Sorry for all the āfriendsā who ate everything up like cake:.. pursuing poverty/giving money they could ill afford; asking for ādirectionā for every stupid move they made and telling their business to everybody; letting their bodies get soft in some cases not taking care of dental needs, etc. Personally, I mostly ignored all the intrusive crap I heard there. Iām so Glad today that I did!
so i pioneered for 10 years in the 1990's it was 90 hours a month with alot of country driving.
i was shocked when brothers and sisters with full time jobs would park their brand new cars and go witnessing in my 20 year old orange datsun.
i was barely living on $250 a week as a yeah...window cleaner.
FOOLEDNOMORE:
If youāre out and your family is still In, they are going to have to learn to say No to the Witnesses looking for Freebies!.. That is one crucial word to learn. Practice in front of a mirror!! ..But, you gotta say No.
As far as the JWs telling you youāre āmaterialisticā because you had a decent job - same here.
But, they ALL made a serious error in judgment when they made idiot remarks to me about āmaterialismā and ānot pioneeringā. Iāll never forget this! ..The consequences are: they DONT get to ask for money from somebody they knocked for having a decent job or working full-time! ..Iām not interested in anybodyās āhard-luck storiesā.
Let them track down their āspiritualā friends and ask THEM for money.
cost of living survey worksheet--(assembly hall servants & construction servants).
cost of living survey worksheet--missionaries.
cost of living survey worksheet--special pioneers.
ATLANTIS:
Yeah, but whose pockets??
I am sure all the JWs still active are being hit up for money left and right. The demographics of the religion have also changed.
The older responsible JWs who are financially secure are passing away. Whatās left are people who may not be gainfully employed because of listening to stupid BS about not getting careers. Then you have the needy with serious āissuesā brought into the religion the last two decades - no doubt to fill the empty seats! For sure these people are added to the list of other JWs looking for handouts!
To me this sounds like a powder-keg situation and Iām Glad I did a āFadeā years ago because I wouldnāt want to be anywhere near this!
