Posts by LongHairGal

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Holding a grudge

by LongHairGal in

i read something recently on reddit (not sure what thread) where a person related how some jw told them that ‘they hold a grudge’.. this reminded me of something an old jw acquaintance said to me some years back when i related my bad experience in the religion.. so, apparently, jehovah’s witnesses feel they should be forgiven for anything.

people should forget all about it and act like nothing happened and be charitable towards them, etc… when i read in james and ephesians i got the sense ‘holding a grudge’ was referring to the things average people do to offend each other.. i don’t see it applying to a religion that claimed to speak for god and who engendered hateful and unchristian attitudes towards people.. i know because i experienced this.. in addition, some people’s lives were damaged by listening to faulty teachings and interference in things that were clearly none of anybody’s business.. one case in point: them knocking worldly careers and now there are thousands of destitute jws in senior years with nothing.. then in 2023 the religion does away with a century old teaching about counting hours in the ministry.

meanwhile, i got judged over this.

LongHairGal

FEDUP JW:

I know what you mean as I saw that hypocrisy and certain people there who thought they were ‘special’, etc. This mostly pertained to hurt feelings I think.

But, in my case, them intruding themselves into people’s lives by telling them what kind of employment they should pursue, goes beyond hurt feelings. It is people’s livelihood. If I were fool enough to have listened I might be destitute now. Would they help or support me? No.

So, in answering my ex-friend, I explained that the answer would be No if they came up to me asking for $. This is a direct consequence of the religion/members’ attitudes towards me and other responsible people who worked. This attitude is in the ‘culture’ there.

The Witnesses imagine the laws of ‘cause and effect’ do not apply to them. Well, I have news for them… They also believe in urban legends and false stories. There is, unfortunately, an air of make believe and unaccountability that runs through the whole religion. This is just one of the many reasons I’m Glad to be Out of there.. I would run from them now.

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Holding a grudge

by LongHairGal in

i read something recently on reddit (not sure what thread) where a person related how some jw told them that ‘they hold a grudge’.. this reminded me of something an old jw acquaintance said to me some years back when i related my bad experience in the religion.. so, apparently, jehovah’s witnesses feel they should be forgiven for anything.

people should forget all about it and act like nothing happened and be charitable towards them, etc… when i read in james and ephesians i got the sense ‘holding a grudge’ was referring to the things average people do to offend each other.. i don’t see it applying to a religion that claimed to speak for god and who engendered hateful and unchristian attitudes towards people.. i know because i experienced this.. in addition, some people’s lives were damaged by listening to faulty teachings and interference in things that were clearly none of anybody’s business.. one case in point: them knocking worldly careers and now there are thousands of destitute jws in senior years with nothing.. then in 2023 the religion does away with a century old teaching about counting hours in the ministry.

meanwhile, i got judged over this.

LongHairGal

LAURA LYNN:

Thank you so much, but you don’t have to pray for me.

You have a very good idea of forgiveness from what you said and I agree with you.

i walked away from the JWs sometime in 2001 for several reasons including the 1995 Generation teaching… I did a ‘Fade’ and didn’t want any drama.. I just wanted to be done with it.. I was not raised a JW but came in as a working young adult.. They tried to pressure me to quit my job and take up housecleaning and pioneer. I refused so they made sure I was marginalized and not invited. I did make a few friends though.

In time, I retired and was very glad I kept that job. I had a conversation with one friend and stated that I would never tolerate being targeted to give money to JWs who never worked, etc.. This person was ‘offended’ and said I held a grudge. In this regard I do. They don’t get to do that.. Nobody has any business imagining they are going to target someone who got knocked for working. I explained it doesn’t work that way. Other than that, I’m polite to JWs. As I said, I wasn’t raised in it and have family and friends who are not in and never were.

In general, the religion cannot be forgiven for its policies and teachings - even those that never affected me.

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WT needs your kids uneducated: CO training video is Master Class in F.O.G. This is jaw-droppingly stupid. Beyond moronic, it's sub-moronic.

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.

today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.

it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.

LongHairGal

RILEY:

This kind of hypocrisy is something I could not tolerate in the Jehovah’s Witness religion.

What a stupid man you are describing that does not care about his children’s future. (Unless maybe he’s dropping a fortune on them when he passes away.)

Older hypocrites with cushy lives tried to ruin my life by pressuring me to quit my job to do housecleaning and pioneering.🙄 I refused. I resisted all the ‘spiritual’ brainwashing talk and nonsense.. But, I credit my non-JW upbringing with keeping me grounded in reality..

Believe me, it is worth every penny to have been shunned back then.. At least I was able to retire.

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GB making their exit before the GT??

by stephenlettclownface in

did i misinterpret something or read something wrong?.

did the gb say recently that they are to be dead or pulled out of earthly existence before the great tribulation?.

if so, can someone point me to jw literature or a thread on this topic?.

LongHairGal

Sorry everybody.

I just cannot believe that anybody would ever think that these men are special or ‘holy’ in any way.

Divinely appointed? Please.

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WT needs your kids uneducated: CO training video is Master Class in F.O.G. This is jaw-droppingly stupid. Beyond moronic, it's sub-moronic.

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.

today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.

it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.

LongHairGal

JHINE:

No offense, but your view of American (US) politics and American society in general is very sketchy at best.

But, I guess it is to be expected when people have never actually lived someplace (and maybe never even visited).. but just believe rumors and cliches about it.

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WT needs your kids uneducated: CO training video is Master Class in F.O.G. This is jaw-droppingly stupid. Beyond moronic, it's sub-moronic.

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.

today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.

it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.

LongHairGal

JOURNEYMAN:

I once had an elder admit to me that “college educated brothers are harder to counsel”.

Also, you are right that the scriptures would appear to support education (‘being able to preach to all sorts of men’). You are also right that this stupid stand would cause young people to leave. Additionally, a highly educated person would have a better job and probably more money to contribute.

So, what’s going on here? It would appear that they really value people who are ignorant and unquestioning.. To be more to the point: unthinking. This makes me wonder what is in store for the average unsuspecting JW.😮 After watching some videos of “Life After Religion”, I’m beginning to understand.

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Are the Dubs going back to the KH again? (Covid-19)

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

any takers?

LongHairGal

VIDIOT:

Also, this man mentions them asking for money in a way he has never heard of.. In one of his videos I think he mentions it’s almost like Jerry Lewis (remember those telethons)?

He thinks it will become more so. He said that they are asking for things like ‘does anybody have an extra motor home..etc.’. This guy is afraid that JWs minds are being programmed to give in to any requests. He also mentions in one video about how the FEAR is ramped up for JWs with ‘go bags’ and their videos about persecution and the great trib and them fleeing into the woods or wherever and leaving their possessions behind, etc. [To me it sounded like it would be worse than what I read happened before 1975 with gullible JWs. I was not in the religion yet so I did not witness this.]

Again, this is what he believes is happening.. It might sound extreme but I would not be surprised if some of the more gullible JWs might do this.

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Are the Dubs going back to the KH again? (Covid-19)

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

any takers?

LongHairGal

VIDIOT:

I see what you mean, but what I get from this guy is that they want to keep whatever members they have online!

I watched a couple of other videos and this man thinks the Witness religion doesn’t care if older ones leave because they are considered ‘dead wood’.. This will be interesting to watch by those of us who are long Out of the religion.

If this happens, it will be devastating to whatever JWs are left.. They will be high & dry with just their laptops & internet connection.. Meanwhile, the religion will continue online. Imagine that? After all these people’s sacrifices! … Time will tell.

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WT needs your kids uneducated: CO training video is Master Class in F.O.G. This is jaw-droppingly stupid. Beyond moronic, it's sub-moronic.

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.

today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.

it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.

LongHairGal

RON.W:

I am sure that mature couple was disillusioned after being kicked to the curb. I hope they find their way.

This being kicked out of the bethels in some people’s eyes is viewed as a sign of ‘going out of business’. Them being replaced by younger people won’t matter in the long run.

Just watch the YouTube videos of ‘Life After Religion’… Meanwhile, I wish JWs would wake up and stop hurting themselves and their families.. They should stop foolish things like denying their children college education, working for free and not getting decent jobs.

According to the guy in the videos the average JWs are about to be ‘royally screwed’! I find his views interesting.

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WT needs your kids uneducated: CO training video is Master Class in F.O.G. This is jaw-droppingly stupid. Beyond moronic, it's sub-moronic.

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.

today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.

it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.

LongHairGal

HOSER:

Yes. And not a ‘paper’ or degree you can hang on your wall that has ANY value in the real world.. And, yes, it’s true that it affects generations. Such is the result of cutting yourself off from society.

Some years ago a poster made a post I totally agreed with. He said he felt an ‘elder’ had all the importance of the president of your local book club.

Sorry if anybody on the forum would be offended at this.. But, this is how somebody like me not raised a Witness viewed it and their other titles... Couldn’t see what all the fanfare was about. Thank God I was never sold on their title of ‘pioneer’!