Posts by LongHairGal

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rant about the stupidty of JW r/f

by enoughisenough in

putting this under beliefs,doctrine and practices because i don't see a better heading.

here is what i have been thinking for years now and the situation with the recent storms and the devastation brings in closer to home in my thinking.

i lived in western nc for 20 years and moved to wv in feb of this year.

LongHairGal

ENOUGHISENOUGH:

I certainly understand your rant about the stupidity of the rank & file Jehovah’s Witnesses.

They are not just stupid but are also complicit, in my opinion. As, It is THEY who carry out shunning and other evils in the religion at the direction of the leaders.. It was the rank & file Witnesses who made sure I was shunned and not invited years ago when I was a young working woman in the congregation.

I am retired now but I have no pity for any rank & file JW who didn’t work to plan for their future.. They are just fools as your post describes - only they are old fools. And everybody knows there’s no fool like an old fool.

I’m Glad I got out of the religion ages ago.

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JWhub

by Mikejw in

i’m an elder who is pima, i’m amazed how much info is available to all elders.

you can see all private details of every member of the congregation.

i wonder how these sisters feel about their private details being available to these creepy elders?.

LongHairGal

ST. GEORGE OF ENGLAND:

Good for you for not signing anything like this!

I am a longtime ‘Fader’ who stopped maybe the end of 2001. They hadn’t yet started with this garbage about collecting people’s information. They had my then address and phone number and whatever stupidity they scribble on somebody’s card. That is sufficient info for them to have as far as I am concerned.

Sorry for anybody who gave them anything more OR if they have details about any judicial committees, etc. Who can know what data base(s) it is in or will go into(?).. There is no confidentiality there and anybody on the forum who thinks otherwise is laboring under a delusion.

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Jehovah Witness An Organization Of Shame.

by WhoYourDaddy in

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i don't have anything good to say about these people.. if you can get past all of the ambient abuse.. if you can get past all of the twisted lies and shameful history.. if you can get past all of the familes destroyed and children damaged from the blood and 2 witness policy.. if you can get past all of the real estate laundering and for profit lies; it is all about the money.. if you can get past all of the hypocricy and bitterness.. if you can get past all of the gb megalomaniacs.. if you can get past all those things.. i still can't find anything good to say about this shameful group of ignorant people.. shame on each and every one of you controlling liers.. shame on each and every one of you who aid and abet this continued ambient abuse and ridiculous fraud of an organization.. shame on you..

LongHairGal

FRAZZLED UBM:

Glad this old thread was resurrected. Don’t know if you still lurk here but your post is excellent.

When I read ‘Crisis of Conscience’, what R. Franz described sounded like a Communist regime to me. Like you, I have no sympathy for the rank & file Witnesses.. I consider them complicit and it is they who carry out ‘shunning’ and other evils.

I am a long time ‘Fader’ who worked full-time years ago who dealt with shunning to a degree and gossiped about by the rank & file JWs.. Now in retirement I feel no pity whatsoever for these smug Witnesses who reached senior years unprepared.. They listened to the religion and made poor choices expecting that Armageddon would save them.

Here we are eleven years after your post was written and things are pretty much the same except the religion has lost many people. In my opinion, when the Boomers are gone that’s it.

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1974 Watchtower Prophecies verses Dad’s Prophecies. Who was correct? An old guy reflects on calamity howling.

by Balaamsass2 in

calamity howling is always in style with some folks, every year.

1974 was 50 years ago this year!

i was fresh out of high school bright eyed and earnest about all things jw and watchtower.

LongHairGal

BALAAMSASS2 & DISGRUNTLED FOOL:

It would seem all the worldly dads were correct in their financial advice about how to plan for the future.

I would have liked to shake that elderly man’s hand who said not to listen to the GB with regard to your job/future.. There were so few honest Witnesses and I would have appreciated more honesty like this. I made sure I told younger JWs there to plan for their future.

Back when I was a young working woman in the congregation, I didn’t even know who the governing body were. Why would I listen to some stranger telling me to quit my job and pursue poverty?.. What about the older retired people in the congregation? Were THEY singled out and told to clean toilets???

I am SO glad I followed my gut and Dad’s wisdom ... I kept my job til the end.. Didn’t care who disliked me.

I have NO interest in anybody there who listened to the religion and pioneered for decades waiting for Armageddon to save them... Let them go ask either the religion or their spiritual friends for financial aid!

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People who work free for the cult for many years

by ThomasDam21 in

new to the forum.

i have a question i did not get any feed back for on another site.

what to these people who gave decades working for free in bethel when they are 60 plus years old.

LongHairGal

NOT FORMER:

I agree with everything you said in your post.

Today’s ’older destitute JWs’ not only denigrated and demonized other churches who have social programs that are keeping many alive - they ALSO denigrated people like me... I was a young woman who worked full-time and wasn’t buying any nonsense about doing housecleaning and full time ministry.. If I had listened I wouldn’t be retired today.

In all likelihood, these older needy JWs pioneered and didn’t ‘count the cost’! They enjoyed a great social life back then when young and got invited to those special dinners. How many times did they listen to derogatory remarks about working people like me? So, they are guilty in my eyes.

Too bad they didn’t do the math in their head when they saw older people there with cushy lives who were already in the workforce.. I was young and saw this and made sure I kept on working. Meanwhile, they were waiting for Armageddon to save them.

No, I don’t feel sorry for them and am Glad to not be around them or in the religion anymore…

JWs and ex-JWs on the forum who imagine anybody owes older needy JWs (who never really worked) anything are just plain mistaken. The RELIGION owes these people because that is who they worked for - and it is just gaslighting to say otherwise.

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I saw this on ex JW Reddit today. Are ANY JW kids even listening to talks anymore with tablets in their hands? :)? lol

by Balaamsass2 in

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i got this notification from ex-jw reddit today via email:.

r/exjw · posted by u/nightmare_dark_shade 1d ago.

guys, my parents found out i was posting here.

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

We are going to hear more and more about the ramifications on this topic as yet more JWs either wake-up or get kicked out of bethel…..There is another thread by some innocent person asking about People who Worked Free for the Cult for Many Years, etc.

IF the religion sells off halls and goes online at some point - I think this will be devastating to many JWs as they realize they cannot depend on their religion that they saw as a ‘Rock’.

This is ALL a horror story and should serve as a cautionary tale for gullible people who did not work/prepare and made the mistake of trusting in any religion for important things in their life. 😮 God gave you a brain and capabilities and never told you to trust in someone else to think for you!

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Another poster asked me to post this as they want to remain anonymous for the sake of the victims.

by karter in

hey karter can you post this for me?

as you know my ex wife and i adopted her brother at 7 years old when his parents passed away.. we brought him up a j.w but he left at 16 and moved in with his girlfriend.. it came out he had been interfering with our 3 daughters when they were very young.. he never got prosecuted becouse my daughters didnt want to ( i suspect their mother a hard out j.w has something to do with that) so basicly he walked free.. latter in life he left his girlfreind comes back to the j.ws and they welcome him like the prodical son and he marries a j.w.. if anyone reading this thinks the j.ws like to hide c.s a read on.. it came to my attention recently by 2 ex elders that had read the letter that followers him when he moves congros that it says the sex bettween him and my daughters was consensual..they were under 10 years old.. this were it gets disgusting.. i approach the p.o of my old congro and ask him who wrote the letter he said he had moved by that time go see another elder .. i did he didnt know as well and said for me to ring the branch.. i did and they were not interested in changing the letter at all basicly go away.. the offender has moved congros 3 times and every time they elders think my daughters under 10 went along with this pos.. not sure what my next move is as the branch here has closed down and they operate out of a diffrent country.. if anyone wants to ask questions ill p.m the reply to you..

LongHairGal

KARTER:

What a tragic story and my heart goes out to the victims.😞 I sent you a PM.

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People who work free for the cult for many years

by ThomasDam21 in

new to the forum.

i have a question i did not get any feed back for on another site.

what to these people who gave decades working for free in bethel when they are 60 plus years old.

LongHairGal

KERRY KING:

I always felt that those who pioneered and got fawned over with the special dinners and looked down their noses at people like me who didn’t pioneer were ‘having their reward in full’. That’s the way it seemed to me.

Anybody who did volunteer work for the religion better be asking the religion for money because that is who they worked for! Never forget this.

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People who work free for the cult for many years

by ThomasDam21 in

new to the forum.

i have a question i did not get any feed back for on another site.

what to these people who gave decades working for free in bethel when they are 60 plus years old.

LongHairGal

THOMAS DAM21:

This is a sad story for anybody who worked for ‘free’ doing volunteer work instead of a REAL job where they pay into Social Security. I am sorry anybody fell for this. Those Witnesses already on the outside are better off, in my opinion, than those in bethel. Nothing sadder or worse than a bethelite who gets kicked out over 50 years of age who not only has no $$ but doesn’t know how the world works.

HOSER:

I know what you mean about them thinking they ‘had the world by the tail’!

I remember this arrogant attitude by some people there.. They pioneered and were ‘admired’ and invited to special dinners and gatherings that I was not invited to because I would not quit my full-time job.. Some of them actually came up to me and scoffed and told me ‘I was missing out’ . That was decades ago..

We have all reached our senior years. These people expected they’d be in ‘the New World’ by now., At least I rid myself of this delusion many years ago and kept that job until it was time to retire!

Instead, these JWs have to keep trying to make a living in a VERY bad economy and getting older with health problems.

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I saw this on ex JW Reddit today. Are ANY JW kids even listening to talks anymore with tablets in their hands? :)? lol

by Balaamsass2 in

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friends

i got this notification from ex-jw reddit today via email:.

r/exjw · posted by u/nightmare_dark_shade 1d ago.

guys, my parents found out i was posting here.

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

It is enough to make me cringe if I think about what horrible predicament I would be in today if I had caved in to pressure years ago by the Witnesses to quit my full-time job to do housecleaning/pioneering!.. Thank God I resisted.

I am sorry I missed the opportunity to tell off certain older Witnesses who have passed away. I would have rubbed this in their faces.

This would have been no laughing matter for me if I were gullible. The JW religion would not be supporting me in my senior years.. I would be knocking on Christendom’s doors for help.. JWs have NO social programs to help the needy which is ironic in view of their contributing to this ‘neediness’ with telling people not to get college or careers!👎

I firmly believe that religions should be required to have some programs to help the poor and needy if they want to keep their tax exempt status!

Again, I am thankful I did what I did and listened instead to the wisdom of my (non-JW) Catholic family and friends!