i am non political and have never voted but nonetheless i have been keenly watching to see how the trump presidential race unfolds.
i believe that his involvement in propelling or influencing a leaning toward bible prophecy will unfold.
how, i can’t say but something tells me that this anomaly and outlier being trump is highly signifiant!
BETH SARIM:
I have no doubt they are hoping for the big ‘A’ since Trump got in again.
But, Witnesses traditionally don’t really care about politics anyway since they have disconnected from the world.. But, I’m sure they’d be screaming if they didn’t get their benefits from the system they insist they hate so much.. Never mind that they knocked responsible working/tax-paying people like me who were in the congregation.. Just hypocrites is what JWs are.
i’m just curious about this dynamic i don’t care personally one way or the other but i do have friends who have chosen to be conservatives and they get totally destroyed on social media pages for their choice.
it’s almost like a lot of ex jw w become as toxic and his judgmental as jehovah’s witnesses themselves what’s up with that?
i also know conservative ex jw’s that can do the same so again i’m not leaning one way or the other i’m just noticing factual observations.
JARED:
If the ex-JWs are younger, they would not remember the better and more prosperous USA that the Boomers experienced.
So, they would be more inclined to lean liberal - imagining this is a ‘good’ thing.🙄 Being as you can’t miss what you never knew they embrace all the liberal ideologies. I also blame the educational system in the country for not doing a better job teaching history. (Maybe this is by design.) You can’t know where you are going if you don’t know where you have been.
Too many liberals have no respect or gratitude for living here. I can’t count how many times I heard some idiot (usually a Witness but not always) say derogatory things about the country (and some of these JWs were collecting disability!).. Yes, I can understand there are things wrong with the country that need to be addressed, but these people have no appreciation at all and they truly don’t deserve to experience the benefits of living here.
co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.
today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.
it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.
RATTIGAN350:
You are right that it is nobody’s business in the congregation (or anywhere else for that matter) whether somebody goes to college, goes to the hospital or has a career. This is a major issue in the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
I felt this way years ago when I was in the religion and these people stuck their noses where it did not belong. These idiots tried to be all up in my business. (Maybe they do this more with women(?) I tried to keep the busybodies at bay and I ended up not being invited because they are hooked on control and are angry if they don’t get it.
i am non political and have never voted but nonetheless i have been keenly watching to see how the trump presidential race unfolds.
i believe that his involvement in propelling or influencing a leaning toward bible prophecy will unfold.
how, i can’t say but something tells me that this anomaly and outlier being trump is highly signifiant!
ANONY MOUS:
Let’s hope there is a peaceful transfer of power.. Nobody expects it will be paradise but would like things to start looking better than they have been.
I was talking to somebody in the Trump camp who said people are tired of higher prices and crime.. They also felt they as taxpayers and citizens were being ‘thrown under the bus’ by the Democrats who were more interested in securing future votes for themselves by catering to migrants, etc. and literally not caring about the bad effects to the country in recent years.
I was reading about why Harris lost and people voted for Trump in spite of the controversies surrounding him.. Real fear about the economy and the bad direction the country has been going in seems to be at the top.. Trump won in places where he previously had been defeated by Biden and even demographics everybody always counted on to vote Democrat obviously changed their minds this time around!!
realistically, between now and 2034, what do you think watchtower will change or reform to appear more mainstream?
what business opportunities do you see watchtower getting involved in?.
my predictions are as follows: .
ST GEORGE OF ENGLAND & JOEY JO JO:
I believe the JW religion/organization will be around in some form probably online!
Joey: yes, everybody has the same eventuality.. The Witness die-hards who spoke loudly and made big brags have reached senior years and all that entails.. Some are gone.. These people were the ones who gave me a hard time years ago about working full-time and were behind the unchristian behavior in the hall.. They scoffed at me and smugly thought they’d be in the new system by now.
St. George: I’m glad you wisely did uni and got a good career and won’t be dying in poverty. I, too, wisely followed my gut and am retired.
I also have the Consolation of having ‘Faded’ from the Witness religion years ago while I had some youth left.. This was priceless along with me reconnecting with blood relatives (who were the only people who truly cared about me).. before it was too late, Thank God.. We enjoy each other’s company including the Holidays together like when we were growing up! 👍🏻👍🏻
remember 1975?
maybe when you were a kid - like i was?
i will celebrate 01.10.2025 the 50th anniversary of the "end of 6000 years of human history and the immediate end of the world".
In 1975, I had not yet made the mistake of setting foot into the Witness religion…Too bad the internet wasn’t around then.
Well, several years later I made that mistake but thank God I didn’t listen to everything they said… I kept working… But, when that 1995 Generation teaching came out I knew I had to get out and planned a ‘Fade’.. It was well worth it and I made up for a lot over the years after that. I reconnected with estranged relatives before it was too late and that was priceless.
I cannot even imagine anybody who stayed in the religion after the ‘75 failure!!
https://youtu.be/rsbfa_7lqv4?si=muuxmgtll1n1ifad.
the watchtower’s babylon the great: a shrinking reality?.
so this latest annual meeting introduced a new idea about babylon the great, and here is the part from geoffrey jackson's talk we real need to dig in and consider it's ramifications..... so you’ve got to hand it to them; they know how to keep things interesting with their ever-evolving interpretations and, of course, those classic "adjustments" in understanding.
LIAM:
Yes, I realize the real hard core Witnesses are the ones before the Boomers.
Back in the day when I was in, those you describe did influence things in congregations and could have been behind me being given a hard time because I worked.. But, funny thing, all the older people there were collecting their pensions because they had been in the workforce when young. What hypocrisy.
Again, I’m Glad today I never listened. Anybody who thought they would ‘shame’ me back then it didn’t work. It was worth every penny to be shunned.
I can see how you thought some were deranged. They were cantankerous and thought they could say anything to anybody. What I could not tolerate was the ‘holy mystique’ that some had about themselves. I never believed anybody’s divine claims and it made me ill when people fawned over them.
Anyway, some Boomers were only too glad to try to imitate them… And, fast forward - now we see what it has come to today almost 2025.👎
https://youtu.be/rsbfa_7lqv4?si=muuxmgtll1n1ifad.
the watchtower’s babylon the great: a shrinking reality?.
so this latest annual meeting introduced a new idea about babylon the great, and here is the part from geoffrey jackson's talk we real need to dig in and consider it's ramifications..... so you’ve got to hand it to them; they know how to keep things interesting with their ever-evolving interpretations and, of course, those classic "adjustments" in understanding.
RAYMOND FRANTZ:
The reason why ‘Babylon the Great’ is no longer falling is because the JWs are becoming more and more like it!
LIAM:
I am a longtime ‘Fader’ and I don’t feel one ounce of pity for the ‘hard core Boomers’ that you describe. These are the people who knocked me years ago because I worked full-time and didn’t pioneer.. I’m Glad I never listened.. They can hang on desperately all they want but the old JW religion is gone.. I still think this religion is eventually going online.
https://youtu.be/rjr0ugtu6zu?si=d3zsz20ee33gytxi.
these new appointments are troubling, to say the least, especially considering the factors surrounding their selection.
these appointments raise key concerns about leadership, experience, and what is happening behind the scenes at the organization's headquarters.
JOEY JO JO:
Yes, I remember all the Boomers when we were young!
You would not believe the die-hard arrogance and smugness that I witnessed back when the JW religion was in its heyday! (Late seventies all through the eighties and so on).. These people thought they were going to march into the new world hand in hand. They were especially critical of me with my full time job. You didn’t pioneer? Nobody would bother with you.. Well, I had no choice but to keep on working and I let these attitudes roll off my back.
When I began my ‘Fade’ it was before tablets and JW dot org and the screen up front showing words to the awful songs. I was surrounded by responsible people. No panhandlers yet.
Well, all the die-hards are now senior citizens. Some have passed away. Some did well $$ others did not. For those who can’t pay their bills because they forever pioneered, they should go ask their ‘spiritual’ friends for help! I wonder what the remainder of the JWs think about the religion.
I can’t imagine anything more depressing than sitting in a Kingdom Hall growing old. To me, it’s all a big slap in the face and I’m glad I got out years ago while I had a little youth left!
a&r means announcements and reminders.. 2024**s*147. here:.
https://pdfhost.io/v/diikuykdl_untitled_1 .
petra!
BETH SARIM:
After what I experienced I felt I had to warn the inexperienced there. I couldn’t live with myself if I didn’t.
Who knows if these little fools went and ratted on me for brownie points! 🤣 This could also explain why I was so disliked by some there.. Who cares.. I’m Glad I did what I did and also never listened to the religion.
Anybody who did listen all those years ago and pioneered for decades and didn’t pay enough $ into SS is in a bad predicament today! What we are seeing today are more potential victims (volunteering for free, etc.). History might sadly repeat itself if these young people don’t wake up out of the fantasy at an early enough age to make up for lost time!
