Posts by LongHairGal

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Whatever Happened to Those who returned to JEHOVAH

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/3yylzu0bi_k?si=kku6r9szfenj3h9i.

whatever happened to those who came back to jehovah?

due to slow growth and the constant scrutiny from governments like norway in relation to their harsh disfellowshipping practices,last year in a move that no one expected the watchtower for the first time extended an olive branch to all those who left the organization or were disfellowshipped in the past.considering this practice was introduced over 60 years ago and with a rough estimate that around 100,000 leave jehovah’s witnesses every year the total number is in the several millions.so we should have expected millions to have accepted this invitation and rejoined the organization, the result though was an abysmal few thousands according to a recent jw update.. so now, for the first time, the latest watchtower study magazine for april 2025 gives us an inside view on how this reintegration is coming along, and it doesn't look good!.

LongHairGal

LV101:

Thank you for saying that.

Some people on the forum (either current or ex-Witnesses) might resent me for using the term ‘deadbeat’ and me saying I don’t want to give JWs who didn’t work $ or charity.. This bothers them so they will downvote my post. But, they aren’t courageous enough to put into words why.. They either don’t understand or care that I got criticized/shunned by Witnesses because I worked OR they imagine they are ‘owed’ something.. Well, not by me they’re not.

Who did they work or volunteer for?? The religion, that’s who. Go ask them.

My philosophy is that you don’t get to criticize somebody for working a REAL job instead of being in the ministry - and then when things don’t work out for you imagine you are going to ask that same person for money.. It doesn’t work that way, IMO.

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Whatever Happened to Those who returned to JEHOVAH

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/3yylzu0bi_k?si=kku6r9szfenj3h9i.

whatever happened to those who came back to jehovah?

due to slow growth and the constant scrutiny from governments like norway in relation to their harsh disfellowshipping practices,last year in a move that no one expected the watchtower for the first time extended an olive branch to all those who left the organization or were disfellowshipped in the past.considering this practice was introduced over 60 years ago and with a rough estimate that around 100,000 leave jehovah’s witnesses every year the total number is in the several millions.so we should have expected millions to have accepted this invitation and rejoined the organization, the result though was an abysmal few thousands according to a recent jw update.. so now, for the first time, the latest watchtower study magazine for april 2025 gives us an inside view on how this reintegration is coming along, and it doesn't look good!.

LongHairGal

CAREFUL:

Regarding this DF’d sister who returned so she can see her family but who stopped attending because she doesn’t want to deal with the intrusiveness: is anybody surprised?

This no boundaries thing has got to be the most repulsive thing about the Witness religion and it’s too bad they don’t adjust their policies about this.. I’m sure well over half of people who stay away is because of this - in addition to their crap man-made teachings.

I walked away almost 24 years ago and this was my primary reason after the 1995 Generation thing.. I was done forever with their garbage.. Long ago I might have tolerated this nonsense but certainly not now.

Besides, they wouldn’t want somebody like me now because I’m older and wiser and my every other phrase would be ‘that’s none of your business’ in addition to ‘No’ when asked by deadbeats for $.. This would pose a problem for the Users and busybodies there.😉

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They are running out of people to do their stuff.

by liam in

this is the watchtower study article being studied today.

so it’s the current new light!.

what are the new qualifications to be an “elder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.

LongHairGal

HOSER:

That was very smart of you to put together a retirement package when you were relatively young (early 30s). That’s what I did. Only I am a woman and was never an MS.🤣

It’s too bad that ill treatment and adversity made you do this. So, if you were treated better back then, you might be in a serious predicament today! I’m sure you realize now (as I do) that it was worth every penny in the end to be treated badly by ignorant people.

I think the religion is sunk if all they have are very young elders! These young guys won’t have what it takes to hound people like the older men of the recent past who are mostly deceased by now. (Not that this would be well tolerated now.)

These young guys are also less likely to be nasty and over-righteous and say absurd or boundary-crossing things like I experienced years ago with deluded older men there - but I resisted.. Nah, they didn’t get anywhere with me.. I am Out many years and good riddance to it all.

But, the point being: these young elders won’t be able to guilt trip or manipulate anybody.. And the religion is ALL about manipulation, IMO.

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Whatever Happened to Those who returned to JEHOVAH

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/3yylzu0bi_k?si=kku6r9szfenj3h9i.

whatever happened to those who came back to jehovah?

due to slow growth and the constant scrutiny from governments like norway in relation to their harsh disfellowshipping practices,last year in a move that no one expected the watchtower for the first time extended an olive branch to all those who left the organization or were disfellowshipped in the past.considering this practice was introduced over 60 years ago and with a rough estimate that around 100,000 leave jehovah’s witnesses every year the total number is in the several millions.so we should have expected millions to have accepted this invitation and rejoined the organization, the result though was an abysmal few thousands according to a recent jw update.. so now, for the first time, the latest watchtower study magazine for april 2025 gives us an inside view on how this reintegration is coming along, and it doesn't look good!.

LongHairGal

NATHAN NATAS:

Thanks for telling it like it is.

In addition to all that, they’d be returning to an environment with many disappointed and sometimes desperate people! At least back when I left in around 2001 I didn’t sense this. It was a better environment in the hall with the ‘hope’ the new system was coming soon to save everybody.

Now all these years later with all the discarded teachings and everybody getting older? Forget it.

ANONY MOUS:

I understand what you mean about ‘no restitution’ with regards to people conned into not providing for their future. What a shame.

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Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.

(i don’t go on jw dot org).

it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.

LongHairGal

UK PIMO:

I am sure you are right that this is being said to ‘cover their tracks’ when disgruntled people point a finger in the future. I would hate to think this damaging policy would affect today’s younger generation of JWs when ‘old and grey’.. What a depressing thought.

I don’t know if anybody ever realized how far reaching and damaging this policy of no career/no decent job has been for Witnesses.

When I was in the religion there were people who weren’t even pioneers who lived on the edge who worked low paid or part time jobs because it was close to home and they ‘didn’t want to miss meetings’.. These people are now ‘needy’ in addition to the pioneers ‘who didn’t count the cost’ and people who got sent home from bethel.. This is far too many poor and needy people in one place (and a reason why I’m glad I’m not there).

This is all several generations of consequences of purposely not getting decent employment because people were led to believe the End was soon!

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2025KingdomMinistrySchoolPrograms2025Special**Talk!

by Atlantis in

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friends

https://pdfupload.io/docs/d302ea8c .

( i hope i am doing this ok for everybody.

if i am messing up anywhere just let me know how to correct any of my errors!).

LongHairGal

Thanks Petra!

HOSER:

So, the religion will be targeting ‘Faders’? Interesting.

I wonder if they would want any fader women coming back who won’t do favors for all the Users there or give money/charity to hordes of JWs who never worked?? ..That would pose a problem since this is ultimately what it would be all about.. That fader should spare themselves the predictable aggravation.☺️ They should stay happily Out.

This is what I will say to any Witnesses who ever show up at my door.

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My Beliefs After Leaving the Watchtower

by KalebOutWest in

i tend to keep my personal beliefs separate from my posts.. i know that is often different from others as their posts as often one and the same with their opinions.

i think that is good.

you get to learn a lot about people that way.

LongHairGal

KALEB OUT WEST:

I know what you mean about your observations of Witnesses you knew from way back. Some have obviously not taken care of themselves physically and/or did not prepare financially for their senior years.

I would not want to be around any of these JWs now. In addition to not wanting them asking for $$👎.. I do not want to hear them bellyaching about how they wish this ‘old system’ was over.. I take one day at a time and enjoy simple things.. I don’t need Witnesses’ depressing/unhealthy thinking around me sapping whatever joy I might have.

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20250115**Ages For Ministerial Servants and Elders!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

2025-01-15-ages for ministerial servants and elders.. see page 2. .

https://pdfupload.io/docs/1b0b5c00 .

https://imgbox.com/p3a9yjmr.

LongHairGal

UK PIMO:

You make some good points.

However, you just cannot substitute good intentions for maturity and experience.

Regardless of how much you hate the attitudes of certain men there of a certain age and wish they were ‘dead and buried’, an elder should be just that: an OLDER person.

It has been this way in all societies since the beginning of time.

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My Beliefs After Leaving the Watchtower

by KalebOutWest in

i tend to keep my personal beliefs separate from my posts.. i know that is often different from others as their posts as often one and the same with their opinions.

i think that is good.

you get to learn a lot about people that way.

LongHairGal

KALEB OUT WEST:

Right now, my beliefs after leaving the Witnesses are pretty much agnostic.

For several years after I initially walked away from the religion, I still believed in the Bible. I might still ‘respect’ it and people who believe in it, but that’s about it.. One thing is for sure: I am happy to be out of the JWs.. After the shock of all those changed or discarded teachings at their 2023 annual meeting - I’m glad today in retirement I paid NO attention to their meddling years ago…especially regarding my employment!

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20250115**Ages For Ministerial Servants and Elders!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

2025-01-15-ages for ministerial servants and elders.. see page 2. .

https://pdfupload.io/docs/1b0b5c00 .

https://imgbox.com/p3a9yjmr.

LongHairGal

Somehow I cannot help but see this appointment of young guys barely out of their teens as ending in failure.

I am long gone out of the Witness religion but I have to say I would never approach some youngster elder about anything. I wouldn’t even ask him what time it was. Back in the day I remember they had appointed somebody in their early 30s. Well, I certainly never went near that guy!