Posts by Ténébreux

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Torture

by bobld in

torture:repugnant,abhorrent,immoral...acts of cruel,inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment wheather physical ot mental(destroys the heart and soul).mental torture,however can leave scars just as deep and long-lasting as missing fingernails of physical torture.psychological torture is used to cause suffering to alter the behavior of the person(includes such things as shunning).when such acts are committed by or at the instigation of or consent or acquiescence of an official or person acting as official capacity of(.........)they do not treat people with humanity.this is,the fact or quality of being humane:kindness,mercy,sympathy,etc.. there can be much more said and how it affects thousands of people (substitute a word for torture) and you know what i mean.. bob.

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I know exactly what you mean... the Kingdom Melodies always had that effect on me too.

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I was able to get my wife to agree with one case where the WBTS is wrong. Shot down later by the RBC.

by easyreader1970 in

my wife knows i am skeptical about everything, even stuff coming from the mouths and pens of the wbts.

recently, i flat told her that i did not believe that animals were all "created" vegetarians, no matter what the wacthtower said.

there was an article (i don't remember if it was watchtower or awake!

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There's also the small question of why a shark (or any other fish for that matter) would have to adapt because of a flood.

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New ex-JW Magazine / Journal

by Moxie in

some of you may already be aware of the new ex-jw magazine that's been in the works for some time.

well, the day has finally come and i'm happy to let you know that jwrecovery magazine is now available online and for free download at www.jwrecovery.org.

it features articles, interviews and columns by many ex-jws throughout the community including:.

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I'd like to propose that all ex-JWs be prohibited from distributing this door-to-door, and that as evidence of our inaction we must fail to hand in a monthly service report.

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Where Does God Live?

by cameo-d in

then spake solomon, the lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.

(1 kings 8:12).

( very same verse can be found at 2 chronicles 6:1).

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He dwells on the star Alcyone in the Pleiades constellation. It's true. I read it somewhere.

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What should I say to the Mormons?

by bluecanary in

yesterday as i was leaving the apartment, there were two women in skirts, holding bibles at the door across from me.

i almost panicked!

i definitely want to talk the jws if they ever come to my door (no one knows me in this area) but i'm not ready yet!.

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From my experience with talking to Mormons, I'm not sure it will be such good practice for dealing with JWs. Their methods of reasoning (if you can call it that) are completely different, and they don't get uppity when you challenge them on facts. The Lord has revealed to them personally that it is all true, and that is that.

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Watchtower Sends Legal Notice To Website Regarding Coyright Infringement

by Bangalore in

the watchtower has sent a legal notice to the owners of the eds blog for posting copyrighted material without permission.

here is the link to the trancript.

the site owners response is also there.. .

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But... but... how can they have intellectual property ownership of information that comes from God? I'm confused.

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Poll: Who Left Whilst Still Believing?

by brinjen in

this is for an upcoming youtube project.

i would love to do this on a mass scale... think there might be something "big" in the results.. 1. were you a born-in (including those who's parents converted while they were still children) or did you convert as an adult?.

2. when you left, did you still (a) fully believe in the truthtm, (b) partially believe or (c) realise it was all a load of crap?.

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1. Were you a born-in or did you convert as an adult?

Born in.

2. When you left, did you still (a) fully believe in the truth TM , (b) partially believe or (c) realise it was all a load of crap?

Partially. Still believed most of the doctrines, but had really started to dislike the organization itself. The social control, arbitrary rules, intolerance for differing viewpoints, etc.

3. Now, do you still (a) fully believe in the truth TM , (b) partially believe or (c) realise it is all a load of crap?

Mostly (c)- but I'm hesitant to declare any viewpoint true or false until I find out for sure what the truth actually is.

4. When you left, how afraid where you of armageddon TM ?

Barely gave Armageddon itself a thought, but it took a bit of adjusting to the idea that I would eventually get old and die one day.

5. Do you class yourself now as (a) christian (b) agnostic (c) atheist or (d) other (please state).

Jedi

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what happened to "peace and security"???

by highdose in

i remember growing up as a dub that everyone was constantly on the look out for what could be the cry of peace and security... then suddenly people just stopped, it stopped being mentioned in talks ... everything.

theories please?.

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I remember being convinced that The End ® was going to arrive in 1986 after looking at one of our Australian $1 coins and seeing "International Year of Peace" on the front of it.

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Is Shunning an Act of Revenge?

by cameo-d in

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does wt demand an act of wickedness to prove loyalty to the institution?.

is shunning a wicked act of revenge?.

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It's not really about the DF'd person at all. They couldn't care less about getting revenge. It's for those who are still in, to show them what will happen if they step out of line.

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Urim And Thumin....or "Jehovah Dice" as I call it! High preist rolls "yes" or "No." Unreal!

by Witness 007 in

when king saul wanted to know if they should continue to chase after the philistines, the high priest would ask jehovah by rolling the "jehovah dice {urim and thumim} "yes" or "no.

" i find this interesting that god would use a dice to decide a major battle plan....anyone else smell a rat?.

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I guess Einstein was wrong :-P