Posts by love11

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I still think it might be the truth - what is wrong with me?

by slimboyfat in

apostate literature - i have read the lot.

you name it - c of c, gentile times reconsidered, thirty tears a watchtower slave, the orwellian world of jehovah's witness, apocalypse delayed, and the freeminds and watchtower observer sites, so on and so on.

and i have been reading the posts on this site regularly pretty much since it started, and hourglass before it.

love11

Guilt will do funny things to people. But if you still believe that this is the "truth" than it may be the truth for you. Everyone has to do soul searching and figure out just what kind of life that they want. No one can tell you that you are right or wrong for feeling the way you do and it may just be the way you feel right now at this moment. But feelings change and most or all of the people here are extremely hurt from the WT organization. If you are not ready to completely leave than it may be that you need more time. I know with my own experiences that I had to be kicked out and treated very badly before I finally got what everyone here was saying. I think that we all would hope you would leave so that you don't have to experience the hurt and pain of this religion but rather learn from our experiences.

Nothing is wrong with you. Back when you were a teen ager I am sure you were just trying to find out who you were. But you need to really see the full picture of you from when you were a baby until you are an old man. If you make a mistake then you will lose all of your "friends/family". Maybe it's unrealistic for a human to follow all of the rules that they put on you. But if you, your family, and all of your friends can reach perfection, than rest assured you will never have to suffer like we have. Good Luck!!!

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Is the NWT going to paperback?

by PaganCross in

is the nwt going to paperback?

anybody hear this?an ebay seller made the claim.. i noticed that the paper in the publications is so thin its see through and the new books are paperback.. http://http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&category=378&item=4534557826&rd=1.

pagan

love11

Nothing would suprise me. I heard that Bethel closed down and that they are moving their entire production to Pennsylvania near the Farm. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, they are having a record breaking business convention in Toledo, OH at the Seagate Center this coming June, you can read about it at toledoblade.com under the business section archive. The reason is that the Pontiac Silverdome near Detroit is being torn down ( the place that they used to go for the assembly) and so they are having less people at the convention at one time but spread out over a longer period of time ( I think they said 2 months). I feel it's a ploy to make it seem like they are doing better than they really are financially. Also, I'm sure the property tax, cost of living, shipping, etc; in New York is much higher than in Pennsylvania. As to the paperback bible, I don't know. But losing any amount of money has got to sting.

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Newbie

by writegirl in

i stumbled on this site by accident and i'm kind of glad i did.

in the past i have typically avoided these sites because most people on them seem newly bitter and i didn't like the tone.

i was raised a witness by an alcoholic father and an abusive stepmother.

love11

Hi, I just signed up today too, it's great to have support and love coming out of your computer isn't it?...

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my mom stopped going to meetings today

by dh in

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i don't talk about my family very much on here, but today i feel i have to, because today after all the years of pushing, finally there is a result.. thanks to life & the universe and everyone on jwd, who by simply existing have helped in a way that i don't know how to write.. today is the day my mom stopped going to meetings.. i won't go into loads of detail at this point because it's very involved, but it's done.

my dad is an elder and is still going, but my mom is out now.. thanks

love11

I'm glad for you and your mom but the road has just begun. It takes a long time to wash that brain back to normal and sometimes you just have to dig your way out of the hole you put yourself in.

Tell her that the best thing that has ever happened to me happened on the night I decided that I wouldn't go to the hall unless I really felt like it and no longer out of guilt. I wanted to go to the mall and so I did on a Tuesday meeting night. That's the night I met my husband at an art store he owned in the mall. I have been married for 10 years and we are so in love. He has been my best friend and at times only friend. I wish her many years of happiness and many blessings on you for helping her. I hope that your dad sees the light as well, 'cause something like this can really change things. Best of luck!

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Help me prove to my bf that defellowshipping happens

by MM090503 in

hi all.. many of you have probably seen my posts on here before, but if you haven't let me reinterate my story in short for you.. i am currently dating a wonderful guy, but the problem is he has been considering becoming a jw.

he has studdied with them for about a year.

because of me has agreed to do some religion searching and figure out what he really believes.

love11

Thankyou Bryan and Walter for your kind words. Love

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Help me prove to my bf that defellowshipping happens

by MM090503 in

hi all.. many of you have probably seen my posts on here before, but if you haven't let me reinterate my story in short for you.. i am currently dating a wonderful guy, but the problem is he has been considering becoming a jw.

he has studdied with them for about a year.

because of me has agreed to do some religion searching and figure out what he really believes.

love11

Not only is disfellowshipping Really happening but it's also found in the bible. The amish do it too but I'm not sure about the mormon's. I was disfellowshipped Dec. 1993 right after I spent the night at a guy's house. My mom called the elders and told them I did not come home all that night and two days later I was pulled in to a meeting with me, my mom, and two elders. That's when I was disfellowshipped. I tried afterwards to get reinstated. I went for months to the Kingdom Hall trying to prove that I wanted back in. At my "probationary hearing" (ha ha) I was told that they knew Jehovah forgave me but that I needed to prove myself to the rest of the congregation by showing up more at the hall. I just looked at them and I had an epiphany. I realized at that moment that they were just men in a religous club and that they were not govered by God because God knew that I was sorry. They will tell you that they only disfellowship unrepenting people but I know for a FACT that is not true. My sister and a few of my friends are disfellowshipped as well and they all have their own story. Example: Sister- disfellowshipped for saying to the elders and to other people in the congregation that dis-f me was wrong. Friend- dis-f for having sex with a man that later became her husband. Friend- dis-f for skipping school with the wrong guy who ended up raping her and she became pregnant from that rape. Friend- dis-f for threatening a man with a knife, she was later diagnosed with bi-polar disorder ( a mental illness that you cannot hold people accountable for). There is more to my story that I have left out. The man I spent the night with has been my husband going on 11 years. That night we did not have sex, we did not even see each other naked. We just stayed up all night talking and fell asleep in each others arms. The elders did not believe that I was telling the truth. But I was. God would know that. If the elders were govered by God, they would know that. As a side note to this story. I was in a car accident 2 weeks after I was married. I was close to dying and I asked my mom for the elders to pray over me. Keep in mind that I came from a stricked jw family that did not talk to anyone that was not a jw. So these people at the Hall were my family and friends, they were everyone I hung out with since I was a baby. So I asked for the elders (uncles to me) to see me possibly for the last time. They told my mom that they would not come into the hospital for a disfellowshipped person and that I was dead already in God's eyes. My mom came to tell me the news. I was devastated. I had a punctured liver, broken tailbone, phemure bone, hip, 2 ribs, wrist, and I was pregnant at the time and lost that baby. My mom said to me " What do you expect when you marry a worldly boy".

The cruelty of this organization will not be felt and will not be noticed until you disagree. They truely are wolves in sheeps clothing to the imperfect person. I strongely recommend to all who are thinking of being a jw or who are studing to be a jw to find love and a since of community within yourself and don't go looking for it here. To the mentally ill who are thinking of joining this organization it will offer you a since of control and well being. Even if it is a false since, it may work for you. However, expect to have to give up family or friends at some point in your life. They will tell you no that they encourage a good family life and that they only kick people out that are evil. THAT IS NOT TRUE. They will kick you out too for any imperfection.

Life has not been the same for me. I have not spoken to my mother in 7 years because she told me "If you're not going to be in the paradise than I might as well get used to it now". She has not met my son who is 5 years old now. And the only friend I have is the ex-jw friend I told you about that slept with her boyfriend who later became her husband. The accident happened when I was 19 years old and I have since learned to walk again. I have 2 children and a wonderful husband that helped me when I was crippled and when no one else would love me. He was raised a catholic but doesn't do anything religous anymore besides spend time with his family. One last word of advice. Beware of anyone saying that they and only they are Gods chosen people. All things in this universe come from the smallest most minute thing- a cell.

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confused Im a non JW and my boyfriend is one of the JWs

by sun_dae in

i'm 21 years old and currently in a relationship with a baptised jw.

i have been studying with the jws for 2 years before we met.

well, i have to admit, i did not enjoy studying with them until about 10 months ago when i became interested of digging the "truth" although it means my sources was only the jw.

love11

Your confused ?.... then the brainwashing has already begun. Look... Really Look... at your relationship as if you were hearing someone elses story. That feeling... that feeling of somethings not right but you're not sure what it is or how to explain it. That is your intuition kicking in ... listen to it. And for God sakes make sure he wears a rubber.

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Peaceful Forest Gump or Tormented Pablo Picasso?

by GetBusyLiving in

a while back when i was a witness i was reading a book with some dubblie friends that asked interesting questions to spark conversation and debate.

one of the questions was this: if you had could choose to live a life as an entirely content simpleton (forest gump) or a tortured genius (pablo picasso) what would you choose?

i was really taken aback when a lot of my friends said that they would choose to be forest.

love11

If Picasso was "tortured" , tie me up!!!!!

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Peaceful Forest Gump or Tormented Pablo Picasso?

by GetBusyLiving in

a while back when i was a witness i was reading a book with some dubblie friends that asked interesting questions to spark conversation and debate.

one of the questions was this: if you had could choose to live a life as an entirely content simpleton (forest gump) or a tortured genius (pablo picasso) what would you choose?

i was really taken aback when a lot of my friends said that they would choose to be forest.

love11

Movies seem to glamorize even the life of a retarded person. But in the real world, people like Forest probably wouldn't be buying stocks with Apple Computers before it hit big. I feel like people will always want to take the easy road if given the choice. But I would choose the tormented artist anyday over a retarded individual. At least I'd be remembered for greatness.

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Problem remembering my childhood

by mtbatoon in

i have a big problem remembering my childhood.

it gets quite frustrating sometimes.

every so often i get a flashback to a memory but only by triggers, usually smell.

love11

Don't feel bad, I'm having trouble remembering all of my childhood as well. But I think that in the past I was trying to block out bad memories. Also, usually when a child is sick that's when they feel loved and well taken care of by their parents. Maybe you're just trying to remember the good in people. It does make it easier to cope and live in the "real world". I hope that helps somewhat. Love11