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  Email from JW

  by sass_my_frass in

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  its been a while, i've not heard from you.

  i hope that you are back and have been reinstated.

  been wanting to talk to you for, well literally years now.

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  sass_my_frass

  I hope he takes the bait and deletes my email address; whichever way his life goes, whenever, I don't want to hear from him. Back then, all we had in common was our shared depression re being witnesses. By the time he gets it together, the only thing we'll have in common will be the history I'm trying to put way behind me. If he never does, I certainly don't want to hear from his tiny little brain again. My initial reaction would have been the most effective way to keep him out of my life, but I'm glad I went to the extra trouble to possibly make a tiny difference to him.
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  Email from JW

  by sass_my_frass in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  its been a while, i've not heard from you.

  i hope that you are back and have been reinstated.

  been wanting to talk to you for, well literally years now.

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  sass_my_frass

  He said:

  Its been a while, I've not heard from you. I hope that you are back and have been reinstated. Been wanting to talk to you for, well literally years now. If your still disfellowshiped then clearly I can't speak to you. But if your back I would love to catch up. I've been debating if I should send this email for a couple of years now, you know how sensitive this can be. I hope you've come back, I've got so much to talk about. I miss my friend.

  I considered replying with:

  I wouldn't go back to your ridiculous cult for anything, and if the only reason you wanted to talk to me was that I'd make you feel good about wasting your tedious life in it, you were never my friend. Now feck off and don't ever contact me again, moron.

  But that was a bit harsh so I tried again:

  You're going to grow old and die, and just before you do, you're going to wonder if you spent your life the right way. Live with the possibility in mind that you're wrong about the armageddon thing.

  My husband suggested:

  Why do I have to be the one to change so that you can talk to me? Why don't you just get over it and start making your own decisions, instead of mindlessly doing what faraway uncaring men in Bethel tell you to?

  But I know how precious he is so I thought maybe:

  I'm sorry, I don't know who you are. Do I know you?

  Then I got angry again:

  Ben! I'd tell you that it's good to hear from you but it isn't. You freaks are still always able to completely mess up my day. I'd tell you why you're better off in reality but you're so brainwashed you'd delete the email before you finished it. Please delete my address now. If you ever get over yourself, you'll understand why I couldn't bear to spend any time wondering if you'll contact me again. I accept your apology fifty years in advance of it.

  By later in the day I was ready to be nice:

  Ben! I hope you're well and doing great. I'm loving life, love, marriage, and feeling really great about the future. I remember that you were depressed way back then. I'm so far beyond all that now and I really hope that you can work it out too . Listen; everybody dies, and even though you 'know I'm wrong', you will too. It isn't a big deal - most likely you'll have a long life, and if you're smart you'll not only be prepared for it, you'll really love the bit that happens first! Just live your life in a way that makes the most of your time. I forgive you in advance. All the best.

  The final edit. I wanted to give him a dozen cognitive dissonance pills. Now that I read it again, I think went a bit too far with the sunshine, which isn't really me, but he wasn't ever bright enough to work that out.

  Ben , what a surprise ! I hope you're well and doing great. I'm just loving life, love, marriage, study, and I'm feeling really happy about the future. I remember you as being very depressed. I'm far past all that now and really hope that you can work it out one day too . You've got to control your own life to be happy, and you can't kid yourself about what that means or you'll waste many more years . E ven though you 'know I'm wrong', everybody dies and you will too , but it isn't a big deal - most likely you'll have a long life, and if you're smart you'll not only be ready for it, you'll really love the spectacular bit that happens first called life ! BTW: I forgive you. You won't get that until long after you've deleted my contact details, and that's ok too . Enjoy your life, and be honest with yourself . All the best !

  I can forgive these retards and still think of them as retards, right?
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  I'm so sick of some JWs...

  by cognac in

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  with all there friggen comments.

  accckkk... my bil is a complete a**.

  i just can't stand him.

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  My BIL didn't want children. He and my sister have been married for 18 years now, and it's been so close to Armageddon that entire time. The only thing my sister has ever wanted is children, and she didn't think she had to wait long. Now she's 38, she's just been through chemo and she only has one ovary. In her head, if this cancer kills her she never will have children, because the resurrected 'are like angels'. Even outside her head the chances are pretty slim now.

  She was never told to consider the possibility of dying before Armageddon and therefore losing your chance at breeding.
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  As of tomorrow I will no longer be a JW

  by passwordprotected in

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  2. experiences

  after my last post where i asked for advice on how to handle whether i should tell an elder that we've been going to church, i decided to tell a local elder who's related to me through marriage.

  this was to save my dad having to 'report' me (i'd told my dad we go to church).

  anyway, i had an interesting chat with him and he said some very personally revealing things re.

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  Change your mind; don't go. It's going to be a tedious and pointless exercise; all they need from you is an admission and they'll have everything they need to sign off on disfellowshipping you. They won't hear a word you say in your own defence. It is a very difficult thing to sit in the company of men who believe they have authority over you, when you want to think that they don't, but you're literally giving it to them. Don't join their game. Make it their problem.

  With regards to your family; if they are drawn into this procedure it will teach them about how loveless the organisation actually is. Talk to your mother (? sorry, or her mother, I've forgotten), before they do. Explain how you feel, tell her that if she wants to involve herself in this you will understand, but that she needs to understand that any way that this changes your relationship, it was her decision to react to yours in the way she did.

  Don't care about the tough position that the elders are in; focus entirely on your family.
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  I am scared for my life. Problems with punks.

  by SnakesInTheTower in

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  2. friends

  so i have been having problems with the renters that moved in next door.

  the last 3 months have been a living hell.

  i have an ongoing complaint with the slumlord that owns the property and the city is taking him to court for derelict vehicles next week (which i anonymously complained about, but i am sure i am being blamed for).

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  sass_my_frass

  Buy him a carton of beer. Practise a sincere apology for getting off on the right foot and for your misunderstanding. Be respectful and contrite. Try to turn this situation around before it escalates.

  If you can't do that sincerely, don't bother.
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  Careful friends, that JC could be viewed as a Legally Binding Arbitration!

  by Oroborus21 in

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  total car franchising corporation, plaintiff, v. doug anderson, defendant.. .

  defendant argued against confirmation because a prior arbitration award in his favor rendered the arbitrators' award void, and an estoppel defense applied.

  outcome: confirmation denied, because second arbitration lacked a contract basis or foundation because the first arbitration dissolved the contract, the award was null, void, and unenforceable, and equitable estoppel applied to preclude plaintiff from denying the committee decision.. .

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  So, the owners of the business either disassociated or disfellowshipped, but because of the nature of the contracts they originally drew up, they're held to arbitration by JC. Bummer. Although it looks like both parties of a disagreement can choose their own arbiter, and the two choose a third. I guess if the owner gets a good lawyer they might fight for a decent third arbiter, but otherwise, well bummer!
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  "The Scholastic Dishonesty of The WATCHTOWER" as a pdf?

  by VM44 in

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  2. scandals

  does anyone know if "the scholastic dishonesty of the watchtower", published by caris, has been made into a pdf?.

  there has been so much excellent material posted here as pdf files, but i forgotten if the above has been posted.. if it has been made available, is a currently active link for it that works?.

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  sass_my_frass

  Nice one!
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  Aren't we as a group smart enough to bring the whole thing down?"

  by BonaFide in

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  2. friends

  i realize that i was stuck believing in jw almost all my life.

  and that each person has to see the light for themselves.. but it was partly the hypocrisy, partly the internet, partly my brother, ex-jw, and partly thinking on my own that did it.. there are smart enough people on the board, is there anything we can do to bring the whole jw thing down?.

  there must me some way, some thing, we can do.

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  sass_my_frass

  There isn't nearly as much interest here in bringing them down as there is there in staying up.

  Anyway, what's it to us that they believe what they want? Shouldn't they be allowed to? Isn't that what you do? Is it anybody elses business what you believe? I don't think so, and I think JWs, just like everybody else, should be left alone to believe whatever stupid thing is in the light right now. Disagreement = opposition = persecution = "We must be right!"
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  Pro's and Con's of DAing myself.

  by lancelink in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been wrestling with the idea of da'ing myself for close to a year now.

  but there is a small area in my subconscious that whispers "this is not a good idea.

  i haven't been to a meeting in over six months, no service in seven years.

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  I think that you should sit on it for a while, and try to forget about it in the meantime. You see, in time you won't feel any guilt about it at all, you'll just be living. When that happens, if you've made that move there's no going back on it. This thing will become completely insignificant to you, but you'll still have to deal with the consequences of awkward new relationships.

  Just go and live for a while and see how things go.
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  "Do you love God more than you love me?"

  by compound complex in

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  2. relationships

  controversial loveafter his international hit "we shall overcome", director niels arden oplev is back with a new drama about youthful rebellion against oppressive mores.

  based on a true story, "worlds apart" takes an unblinking look at a teenage girls struggles, when falling in love makes her challenge the rigid principles governing the lives of jehovahs witnesses.by eva novrup redvall.

  published in film #62, february 2008. .

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  sass_my_frass

  I've heard about this film. I'm looking forward to it.