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Jehovah the great forgiveness, only the one creator of the universe

if you have time, post the message about this topic and make my mind more strong.. or send mail at hatdaime at the rate yahoo dot com.. .

A desperate time for JW as realisation inevitable dawns .....

by Gill in

in time, slowly and inevitably, a lot of jws will realise that they have been conned.

they may deny it at first but eventually a substantial amount will discover that they have lost their lives, their talents and their potential to of all things, a book publishing company!.

so, what will their reactions be?

IMO: there will be no great exodus of the organisation, ever. The more time a person has invested in the idea of sacrificing this life for their everlasting life, the most critical it is for them to find ways for it to be true. Don't kid yourself - it is very easy for them to convince themselves that it is true. All they have to do is what they've been trained to do all their lives; parrot what they read, spy on each other, instantly reject anything that might give them other ideas. You know the drill.

People who want to bring the organisation down are wasting their energy, and wasting their own lives on the organisation, just in a different way.

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International Conventions

by stillajwexelder in

so i am sure you will be thrilled to know that the international conventions in 2009 will be held in mexico, hawaii, south america (but did not say where exactly), austria and germany with other possibles and kenya - nairobi.

cost to europe is slated at 2500 dollars package but warned that other destinations will cost more.

the main requirement read in the letterwas "make sure you have the finances".

sass_my_frass

The last one in Sydney was in the olympic stadium. There was a large Japanese international delegation, and as I never felt lonelier than when surrounded by 80000 victims of the body snatchers I found the Japanese fascinating that year. There was a special talk for them in Japanese one lunchtime, but the seating set aside for them was right out in the sun, facing into the sun. Late spring in Sydney is ferocious in a concrete stadium, especially when you're sitting around in your kimono. My brother (an infant elder), his father-in-law (a first aid guy) and I and a few others went over to the pub and bought out their stock of bottled water, carried them in and started walking down the ailes handing them out where these poor sucks were withering, fainting from heat stroke and being carried away to ambulances.

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International Conventions

by stillajwexelder in

so i am sure you will be thrilled to know that the international conventions in 2009 will be held in mexico, hawaii, south america (but did not say where exactly), austria and germany with other possibles and kenya - nairobi.

cost to europe is slated at 2500 dollars package but warned that other destinations will cost more.

the main requirement read in the letterwas "make sure you have the finances".

sass_my_frass

Any single woman will consider 2500 a very small price to pay to meet their dreamboat octogenarian elder who works in a car wash.

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i born muslim just two year ago come be a JW.

by faith in hatyai thailand in

dear , friend.

i am gino alen from songkhla thailand, when i born i have muslim stamp.

and steel when i am 30 year old, my belived is very perfect, in mean time one day one jw pooiner met me and i start study bible first time when i am 30 year and 2 month, this is very intresting for share with all, every muslim belived bible, but 99% no see bible, only speak with you i belived .

sass_my_frass

Whatever floats your boat.

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What has everyone done with your literature, now that you've left?

by momzcrazy in

i have boxes of literature upstairs.

i was waiting for bookshelves to get built in our new house, but now i don't want to put them all up.

i have sentimental things, like ones that were my dad's.

sass_my_frass

Put them on ebay. There's a sucker born every minute.

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How many years before you left did you realise it was not the truth?

by jambon1 in

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friends

i was only in for 10 years.

however, i never feel that i 100% believed it all, even at the point of baptism.. i think after the initial period of 'love' shown on the part of the brothers, i must have only been a baptised brother for about 4 years when i knew it was all wrong on so many different levels.. i remember a sister saying to me "once they have got you under the water, that's when you see the real way they treat you".

it all changed after baptism.

sass_my_frass

Not until four months after my disfellowshipping, in the end. I had suspicions and doubts for probably fifteen years prior to that, and that includes pre-baptism. It took years before I could put them into words even in my head, years more to put them into words with other people.

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Am I In A Judicial Loophole? - advice please....

by Juniper in

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friends

i hope everyone is doing well.. .

is there anyone out there well-versed in the 'shepherd' book and judicial proceedings?.

a wee bit o' background..... i have been 'out' for about 3 years now.

sass_my_frass

Okay, I was disfellowshipped from a congregation that didn't have my publisher card, so obviously there is nothing in the elder lawbook about that being a condition. The difference is that I was well and truly on the elders radar; living with two sisters who were very active. I had attended meetings for a year and eventually stopped. I hadn't ever been out on the preach in that congregation so I was inactive, but it was a couple of years before the elders even asked if I was baptised. I hadn't given contact information to my previous cong so my card hadn't folllowed me.

I went to the elders to set up the JC myself (*%$#?!). If, however, I had not done that, my godbothering parents would probably have done so on my behalf thinking it's what I needed. I went myself because I knew it was the only way to retain my parents support. I now know that I should have just realised that I can live without that, and made it their problem. So, I recommend;

- if your parents or anybody at all hounds you for information, stand your ground. It isn't any of their business - tell them that if you have to. If the elders can't get a confession from you, and have no other source, they have nothing to work with.
- if they get the elders to contact you, don't do anything that will give them something else to work with, like just having an untheocratic attitude or being a possible apostate. They might be the type to go after somebody just because of that. Give them nothing.
- get on with living and enjoying your life. You can't control everything.

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JWD JWD JWD JWD JWD JWD JWD JWD JWD JWD JWD JWD JWD JWD JWD

by oompa in

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friends

i am still a newbie compared to many here, and i don't even know who does what, nor have i ever read all those numbered rules and such that are below every post.

so thanks for not kicking me off.

simon, ladylee and jgnat as well as any other veterans on this site......i sincerely thank you for you efforts regarding jwd....(like elders...your pay is low i guess).

sass_my_frass

Oompa you're a star! I have many wishes on your behalf, to do with yourself, your marriage, and your future. For now I hope that you can find some calm so that you can focus on yourself and sort things out with some degree of clarity. Keep things simple. Forget the elders, the doctrine, the publications, the congregation, the rules, the guilt. The only thing that matters is you and your marriage. Cut back on what you care about. You can't care about every damn thing.

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Urgent: Moral guidance required

by sass_my_frass in

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friends

long story short: my nan, mum's mum (mum's a jw), has two living sisters, aunty a and aunty j; none of them are witnesses and don't like jws very much.

they're all in their eighties.

my nan lives in the state i grew up in but my (great) aunts live in the state i live in now and are visiting my nan.

sass_my_frass

Just to keep the storyline intact... Aunty J died the other day.

In the end I didn't bring the blood issue up, and I'm glad, because it was moot. There wasn't a lot that could be done except for pain management.

sass_my_frass

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