i've been thinking of how all of our lives have changed from learning about this religion and getting out.
probably no one has done more to help us understand the truth about "the truth" than raymond franz.
of course there were others that questioned dates, prophecies and dogma but it was ray franz that revolutionized the organization.
I think Ray Franz is an awesome, honorable person who has other people's best interests at heart, a rare quality.
I was in shock when I was reading his book because it was before I had done a lot of research. It really nailed the coffin on how I feel about the WTBS.
so, i went to the memorial last night.
geez, it must have been "welcome home, undercover" night at the kh.
people were lining up to speak to me.
"A few hotties came in, wearin low cut blouses. One girl came in low-rise jeans, tight low cut top and stripper shoes. Watching her was worth the price of showing up all by itself."
Are you sure you weren't at Brooke's Memorial? Hee Hee
this is my first post.
i've been reading for a while and can relate to a lot of the other post.
been associated with the witnesses for over 30 years now, been disfellowshipped twice but now reinstated.
Welcome to the board. If the JWs at your Hall find out you visit this site, you will be in trouble--so just a warning. I hope you find what you're looking for, the so called 'truth' ain't what it's cracked up to be. Wish you the best.
hi ive been studying for 2 years and i feel really under pressure to make a move and get baptized!!!
i attended all meetings and live my life according to the way jehovah's requests, (as best i can) i feel a bit lost and under pressure!!!
any advice is more than welcome
If you are being pressured then it's really not your own decision is it?
No one can make you do anything, including those of us posting here. But beware--JWs are NOT up front about all the little rules and regulations you will be expected to follow after your baptism. If you don't act like a carbon copy cut-out Stepford JW, they will shun you or mark you as bad association even if you are not kicked out.
im posting for brooke, cause she is in the middle of a bet, and cant post till may 3rd.
and we know how determined she can be.
she wont loose.
BROOKE IS ONE APOSTAHOTY WITH GREAT BIG BALLS!
The balls are figuratively speaking of course.
We REALLY need to get a huge group together to attend next years Memorial. We could all sit in the same area, pretend we don't know each other, and drink all the wine. Please please please let's do this!!!
Being self righteous
Armageddon
"Conscience" matters and whether someone else's conscience is right or wrong
i just need to vent.
those stinking, filthy, rotten, pieces of @#!*.
my husband and i are not disfellowshipped yet you would think that we are.
I know how you feel. I was disfellowshipped, reinstated and then slowly faded. But any JWs that see me in public that know me, pretend like they don't see me. My JW sister on the other hand, has more contact with me than our non JW relatives. I don't get it. A bunch of F'd up whackos!
On a lighter note--my JW sister stayed one night at my house a while back (she lives far away), and she slept in my kids' room. I was worried she would be offended by a Nightmare before Christmas calendar hanging on the wall, so I hid it (you know it's demonized!). Well, she snooped through the kids' stuff and found Buffy the Vampire Slayer videos and a rock poster of the group Garbage that talked about bleeding or something like that; she called me a day later after she had went home and told me how worried she was about all the negative stuff in my kids' room and how it may be affecting them emotionally--I had to keep myself from laughing while I told her I appreciated her concern.
sorry if this offends, but the only thing that comes to mind is: you can take the girl out of the trailer park but you can't take the trailer park out of the girl.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16934293%26method=full%26siteid=94762%26headline=exclusive--britney-tot-cracks-his-skull-name_page.html 12 april 2006exclusive: britney tot cracks his skullexclusive singer and hubby quizzed over baby's injuryby ryan parry, us correspondent.
britney spears and her husband are being quizzed after their baby son suffered a suspected fractured skull.
six-month-old sean smashed his head falling to the ground from his high chair.
I never could stand Britney Spears. What a loser.
after my wedding i sent out an email to every non-witness i know and jw parents and a couple of siblings; the first group to stay in touch with old mates or turn near-strangers into friends in a time of needing them; the jw family group so that they'd know what's going on in our lives and how the wedding etc went and partly because i didn't want to be 'shunning' them; i wanted to be the one showing love and making an effort to maintain contact.
i sent another out recently, i figure i'll make it a biannual report on the life and times of the frass family.
it's nothing at all controversial, just a 'what we're up to' email.
So sorry for what you're going through. I think I agree with Lisa that you should do a 'reply to all' so everyone can see the unkind response you received from your loving JW relatives. I remember when I was disfellowshipped and my sister began shunning me, how angry my non JW relatives and family were--it caused quite a commotion and it ended up showing people how unChristian the JWs are. My aunt was so upset that whenever the JWs would knock on her door--she would yell at them and literally run them off her property and tell them that they were ruining our family relationships.
Wish you the best!
i am married to a christian who believes that anytime now true believers in christ will be raptured up to heaven; every time the news shows things going on in the middle east my husband gets all excited and talks about how he doesn't want to be left behind.
after being involved for years in the jdubs and having nightmares of armageddon and all that, i feel happy just living my day-to-day existence and not worrying about my 'afterlife'.. in fact, i could care less about the afterlife and whether i go to heaven or hell; partly because no one really knows what's going to happen to me when i die.
the only thing i care about in my life is being a good mom to my kids, nothing else matters to me besides enjoying each day i have here right now on this earth--enjoying time with friends and family, vacations to disneyland, visiting the ocean or the snow.. i feel annoyed when my spouse starts talking about his beliefs, because i just feel so ambivilent toward the future.
KidA--part of the problem is my husband really didn't bring up his beliefs until after we got married. I knew he believed in God and hadn't been to a church in a while, but anyway I guess I should have spent more time asking questions about his beliefs.
I just needed to vent. I wish my husband would spend more time (mentally) in the present rather than obsessing over his fear of going to hell if he doesn't watch out.
