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Sing, sing a song....
by new hope and happiness ini learnt this game on another site, and its great fun.
you name a song title and the next person names another title that has one of the words from the first one, making a chain of associations.. so far instance,.
our house...csny.....house of the rising sun.....bob dylan.... your turn... .
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Sing, sing a song....
by new hope and happiness ini learnt this game on another site, and its great fun.
you name a song title and the next person names another title that has one of the words from the first one, making a chain of associations.. so far instance,.
our house...csny.....house of the rising sun.....bob dylan.... your turn... .
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CaptainSchmideo
Girl-Beatles or Davey Jones (different songs, same title)
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News Leaks bring discredit to Jesus!
by CaptainSchmideo inhttp://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2014/08/29/mars-hill-elders-news-leaks-to-non-christian-world-discredit-jesus/.
mars hill elders: news leaks to non-christian world discredit jesus a newly formed board of elders at mars hill church, in a letter friday, condemned news leaks, sought to reassure the flock and warned that public airing of internal allegations and concerns would be used by enemies of the faith.. mark driscoll: senior pastor at mars hill church has taken an extended focus break but controversy swirls within the mega-church.
(photo: crossway books/ap).. the letter seemed to carry a triple message: keep the faith, keep quiet and we will take care of it.. pray that the watching non-christian world would not be given the opportunity to discredit not only our church but the very gospel of jesus: pray that jesus will be glorified through all of this, said the letter, sent five days after senior pastor mark driscoll announced he was taking an extended focus break.. the letter follows thursdays leak of a critical letter signed by nine pastors at the seattle-based mega-church.. the nine excoriated the church for lack of transparency, and the transition of a high volume of people off staff.
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CaptainSchmideo
Thanks, Apognophos. I thought it was readily apparent, myself, but apparently not. One of the least favorite things for religions is when "outsiders" get to examine their dirty laundry.
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Stephen Lett (Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses) Publicly Counsels Politicians During Convention Keynote Address In Africa
by jwleaks inzambia: fulfill promises ... jehovah's witnesses counsel politicianstimes of zambia.
august 23, 2014. by chatula kampo.
a top jehovah's witnesses' world leader has bemoaned politicians' failure to fulfill campaign promises.. stephen lett, who gave a keynote speech at the on-going convention held at levy mwanawasa stadium in ndola, said politicians needed to meet the aspirations of people who vote them into public offices.. meanwhile, conversion overseer john mashilipa has urged fellow witnesses to respect the government of the day, obedient and continue remaining non-partisan.. in the keynote address streamed live from solwezi district in the north-western province, mr lett, one of the seven members of the world governing body said electorates expected much from the people they vote for.. "there is need for politicians to fulfill their promises to their voters once they assumed power," he said.. he observed that most politicians failed to fulfill promises to their voters who had high expectations.. "politicians usually promise a moon and not deliver to their promises, this is disappointing to the voters who have high expectations," he said.. mr mashilipa said believers needed to seek god's kingdom which he said never fails, unlike human governance.. this year's conversion attracted a historic attendance of more than 40,000 people from across the five districts in the province namely; ndola, kitwe, luanshya, mufulira, kalushi and chambishi.. gathered under the theme 'keep seeking first god's kingdom', witnesses filled the stadium and those who could not find seats monitored proceedings from outside.
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CaptainSchmideo
Whatever. It's rhetoric, and straw man arguments, plain and simple. Science Fails, Politics Fails, Mainstream Religion Fails, but Jehober never fails. Heard this talk a thousand times before.
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News Leaks bring discredit to Jesus!
by CaptainSchmideo inhttp://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2014/08/29/mars-hill-elders-news-leaks-to-non-christian-world-discredit-jesus/.
mars hill elders: news leaks to non-christian world discredit jesus a newly formed board of elders at mars hill church, in a letter friday, condemned news leaks, sought to reassure the flock and warned that public airing of internal allegations and concerns would be used by enemies of the faith.. mark driscoll: senior pastor at mars hill church has taken an extended focus break but controversy swirls within the mega-church.
(photo: crossway books/ap).. the letter seemed to carry a triple message: keep the faith, keep quiet and we will take care of it.. pray that the watching non-christian world would not be given the opportunity to discredit not only our church but the very gospel of jesus: pray that jesus will be glorified through all of this, said the letter, sent five days after senior pastor mark driscoll announced he was taking an extended focus break.. the letter follows thursdays leak of a critical letter signed by nine pastors at the seattle-based mega-church.. the nine excoriated the church for lack of transparency, and the transition of a high volume of people off staff.
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CaptainSchmideo
Mars Hill elders: News leaks to ‘non-Christian world’ discredit Jesus
A newly formed board of elders at Mars Hill Church, in a letter Friday, condemned news leaks, sought to reassure the flock and warned that public airing of internal “allegations and concerns” would be used by enemies of the faith.
Mark Driscoll: Senior pastor at Mars Hill Church has taken an “extended focus break” but controversy swirls within the mega-church. (Photo: Crossway Books/AP).
The letter seemed to carry a triple message: Keep the faith, keep quiet and we will take care of it.
“Pray that the watching non-Christian world would not be given the opportunity to discredit not only our church but the very gospel of Jesus: Pray that Jesus will be glorified through all of this,” said the letter, sent five days after Senior Pastor Mark Driscoll announced he was taking an “extended focus break.”
The letter follows Thursday’s leak of a critical letter signed by nine pastors at the Seattle-based mega-church.
The nine excoriated the church for “lack of transparency,” and “the transition of a high volume of people off staff.” They urged that Driscoll remove himself not only from the pulpit but from any role in church administration until a “restoration plan” is worked out.
One of the nine has been fired from the Mars Hill Portland church.
The Friday official response, signed by 16 elders, repeats a frequent mantra that accusations against Driscoll and other seniors, ranging from abusive behavior to shunning to plagiarism, will be fully investigated.
“To address these allegations and concerns, a newly formed Board of Elders, made up of trusted lead pastors, has been appointed to examine these charges,” it said. “These men have already met for many hours this week to begin this important process.”
Unfortunately, added the elders, “almost everything that goes on in private” at the church “is leaked publicly to online media.”
The principal recipient of leaks has been Warren Throckmorton, a redoubtable Pennsylvania psychology professor who writes for a believers’ audience at the serious, reflective Patheos website.
But the elders turned to St. Paul to condemn the airing of bad news.
“Your elders are deeply grieved over the manner in which this has happened,” they wrote. “In particular, we are grieved because 1 Corinthians 6:1-8 gives us a very clear (and even stern) command that when we have grievances against one another, we are to work them out in such a way that non-believers are not invited into the discussion.
“This passage shows us that even in cases of serious wrong or disagreement, God wants us to exercise appropriate discretion. We are terribly sorry because this is incredibly distracting and harmful to the cause of the gospel.”
Mark Driscoll and wife Grace Driscoll discuss on “The View” their book, “Real Marriage.” Driscoll hired a consulting firm to stroke sales, using Mars Hill money, to get book on the New York Times bestseller list. (Photo: Donna Svennevik/ABC via Getty Images)
The faithful at Mars Hill have been asked to take much on faith.
They raised $2 million over and above tithing in order to put on an August “Jesus Festival” at Marymoor Park. It was touted by Driscoll as late as February, but then quietly scrubbed.
In a March mea culpa, Driscoll confessed to using church money to hire a consulting firm to create illusory sales of his book “Real Marriage” in order to get it on the New York Times bestseller list.
A key indication came Friday that Mars Hill is going to keep key decision-making in house.
Two prominent pastors recently quit as “outside” members of the church’s Board of Advisors and Accountability (BOAA). One of them, author-professor Paul Tripp, was deeply involved in dealing with charges against Driscoll.
The Thursday letter, from the nine pastors, quoted Tripp as calling Mars Hill “the most abusive, coercive ministry culture I’ve ever been involved with.” He was also quoted as questioning Mars Hill’s ability to recover while its current leadership team is in place.
On Friday, the 16 pastors criticized Tripp but did not deny the substance of his criticism or the Thursday letter from the nine.
“Paul Tripp’s comments to our elders were never made directly to the Board of Advisors and Accountability, as we have minutes of these meetings,” they told the Mars Hill flock. “We are deeply disappointed that Paul did not bring these concerns to our full Board or to the Executive Elders directly.
“The concerns brought forth by these elders and the comments from Paul Tripp have been heard and are being taken seriously. Their letter, as with past letters voicing accusations toward Pastor Mark, will be processed in accordance with out bylaws.”
The church filled two vacancies on the BOAA, both from within its ranks.
Pastor Mark Rogers, a volunteer pastor at Mars Hill-Bellevue, will join the oversight board and serve as chairman of the new Board of Elders. The other vacancy on the BOAA has been filled by John Phelps, a businessman and longtime Mars Hill member.
Mark Driscoll preaches: He has been removed from the speaker list at upcoming evangelical conferences.
The promise is that the new Board of Elders will provide increased accountability in areas of financial responsibility, staff and elder transitions, and “church culture.”
The Mars Hill sage has stirred the world of America’s evangelicals.
The seriousness of charges against Driscoll came to light in complaints lodged by former pastors and program leaders at the church, including a co-founder of Mars Hill. Twenty-one former pastors lodged charges earlier this month.
The key blow came when the Acts29 Network, a nationwide group of “church planting” evangelicals, expelled Driscoll and Mars Hill. The church’s 15 campuses were removed from its listing of more than 500 churches in the U.S. and abroad.
Seven directors of Acts29, which Driscoll co-founded, urged him to take leave of the ministry for a prolonged period and to seek help.
Driscoll has said his “extended focus break” will extend for six weeks and that he is meeting with a “professional team of sincerely Christians.”
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BIG CHANGE IN THE WIND?
by The Searcher infollowing on from this post - http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/282716/1/is-this-the-big-change - my info is that the service meeting items next week are to be reduced by 5 minutes each to allow the cobe to present the secret item to the flock!.
also, no one, not even the cobe knows what the subject matter is yet.. everyone here should be ashamed of themselves for making the glorious ones in brooklyn more secretive than opus dei or the freemasons!!
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What my mother should have done.
by LovelyEunie inthis is somewhat of a rant but every time i think of it it just pisses me off.. .
i never understood why my mom would never switch to another hall or whatever when she knew how i was treated by the people who were supposedly the 'best' association around.
my older sister also, because neither of us really had any jw friends because for whatever reason i guess we were pegged as the baddies because our dad wasn't witness (still isn't) and my mother stayed sick a lot so she wasn't able to do half of whatever was required.. .
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CaptainSchmideo
In recent years, I have felt a lot of resentment to my parents for sentencing me to the situation I find myself in today-Trapped in a religion that I no longer believe in, with family members that would be distressed if I was honest and left it.
Yes, I suffered the humiliation of being a JW kid that was not with the "in" crowd at the Hall, but wasn't allowed close friendships outside the hall. Gave up opportunities to better my future because Armageddon was so close.In the end, what for? My parents are divorced, neither one goes to meetings anymore (even though my Mom believes it's "The Truth"). Mom in particular is so full of spite and anger toward all the so-called friends from the hall, that bring any one of them up by name, and she can recite chapter and verse all the wrongs they ever did to her, or the slights she got from them. This is what 50 years as a Witness results in, apparently.
I decided the cycle stopped with me.My kids were allowed to be "normal". They played in the school band, even during Holidays and Patriotic Events (oh MY!). I have insisted that both of them go to and complete at least at Bachelor Degree in College. We keep it low-key, but we celebrate their birthdays with dinner and a gift. Life is tough enough without hobbling down with weights and bullshit that are meaningless.
I live vicariously through my kids now. But I fell like those characters in stories that get to live to see their kids cross over into better lives, the lives that they themselves were denied. -
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A QUESTION I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANSWERED BY JWs
by NAVYTOWN inthe jws make such a big deal about not taking (eating) blood in any form.
that being the case, shouldn't they avoid eating steaks?
even a well- done steak still contains the animals blood.
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CaptainSchmideo
Can JW's eat Hebrew National hot dogs? They DO answer to a Higher Authority, after all....
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ELDER LIES AND GET'S PRAISED FOR IT! FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME!
by BucketShopBill inwant to know how a lie can turn into a compliment?
only in the jw mindset!!!.
we got called into the dreaded back room after meeting to find two elders wanting to discuss a 'serious' matter with us.
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CaptainSchmideo
It's not admirable. It's Double-Plus Good!
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why did they have to butcher the kingdom melodies?
by purrpurr inits not like there was anything wrong with them was there?
i used to love the old ones.
these new ones feel like the equivalent of a deflated balloon.. does anyone have the answer?.
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CaptainSchmideo
One of my favorite apostates and a brilliant composer, Frank Kavelin (aka JWN member DNCall
Well, put me down as a negative vote on that song. Unless he only wrote the notes. If he wrote the words, hanging's too good for him. I've heard better meter and rhyme from Benny and Bjorn. Hated, hated, hated that song.
Sorry, dude....
