my lurking jw friend sent me a copy of this new dec.15th rubbish on " holding fast to your integrity " - and i don't know if it's the fact i've been out of the witnesses 5 years or not - but the ludricousness of this information seems to be increasing to me.
once again the watchtower society makes big issues of miniscule , small time actions raising the fire alarm , but gloss over more serious sins like murder , for instance .
for example , check this tidbit out from paragraph 10 - " we know that god's word forbids fornication.
If there is a God - He probably looks at this organization and wonders why he just doesn't send a bolt of lightning down and put the Watchtower Society out of it's misery right now.
I wish He would put the Watchtower Society out of OUR misery! Our loved ones have been held in bondage to this insideous cult long enough! Lord, please set the captives FREE.
Lavendar
does anyone know of an old wt book that proves the jw's used to vote in elections??
any help would be very much appreciated!.
lavendar .
Thank you very much, Gerard and Yknot! I'll go back now and read all you've provided. I appreciate your help!
Yknot - 12 kids spending the night?! Bless your heart! Hope you get some sleep! Heh heh
Lavendar
does anyone know of an old wt book that proves the jw's used to vote in elections??
any help would be very much appreciated!.
lavendar .
Does anyone know of an old WT book that proves the JW's USED to vote in elections?? Any help would be very much appreciated!
Lavendar
my wife and i have been reading " releasing the bonds " by steve hassan and it makes some interesting points about assisting people to get out of any cult.
notice this excerpt from chapter 6 from the book.
hassan states, " it is also important to understand that in most bible -based cults, although the member is aggressively taught doctrine, it is not the doctrine that holds him in the group.
My friend and I each have loved ones enslaved in the WTS, and we both have a burden on our hearts to see them set FREE. We both have had many, many conversations with our JW loved ones, and have tried to pose some good thought-provoking questions to try to get them to see the light; but the questions and discussions were mostly about doctrine. Needless to say, we both have gotten NO WHERE fast. No matter what you say, the JWs always come back with some "answer". They twist scripture to fit their beliefs.
I'm beginning to think my friend and I should try something different. Instead of debating doctrine, perhaps we should concentrate on showing the falsehoods, lies, etc of the ORGANIZATION ITSELF. What do you think?
PS: Happy birthday, Mr Flipper!
Lavendar
i posed this question on another thread... namely burns and hooberus...wouldn't answer, so i thought i'd ask it again in an open thread..., .
you on the right disagree with roe v wade... so that means that you want to redefine when a zygote, embryo, or a fetus has what anyone would rule for lack of better words "the right to life"... .
exactly when is life, human as per your definition?
What should be the penalty for those who abort early in the pregnancy (say before 5 weeks) If you consider abortion murder and that life begins at conception?
And I'll ask again, what about rape and incest? Should there be laws that make someone have the baby after rape.,.,. I'm talking law here not personal opinions.
Dawg, these are really tough, but good questions. To be very honest with you, I just don't know what the answer is.
All I know, deep down in my spirit, is that abortion is wrong. The Bible says in Proverbs 6:16,17 that "the Lord hates hands that shed innocent blood". How much more innocent is a little, defenseless child in the womb?
Lavendar
i posed this question on another thread... namely burns and hooberus...wouldn't answer, so i thought i'd ask it again in an open thread..., .
you on the right disagree with roe v wade... so that means that you want to redefine when a zygote, embryo, or a fetus has what anyone would rule for lack of better words "the right to life"... .
exactly when is life, human as per your definition?
I'd say its a group of cells that have been fertilized, the lumps of fertilized cells I've seen (blastocysts I believe it's defined) certainly look like numerous cells I've seen under a scope. If no one told me what it was, I'd of thought I was looking at skin and blood cells combined... I'd of never guessed it was even human...
Dawg, this is what YOU, and ALL of us, used to look like when we were conceived in our mother's womb. Just b/c we once looked like this....doesn't mean we weren't human.
Again I ask, if a Zygote is not human......then what is it??
i posed this question on another thread... namely burns and hooberus...wouldn't answer, so i thought i'd ask it again in an open thread..., .
you on the right disagree with roe v wade... so that means that you want to redefine when a zygote, embryo, or a fetus has what anyone would rule for lack of better words "the right to life"... .
exactly when is life, human as per your definition?
yet I can't say that I believe a zygote is a Human... not at all...
If it's not human.....then...what is it, Dawg??
i posed this question on another thread... namely burns and hooberus...wouldn't answer, so i thought i'd ask it again in an open thread..., .
you on the right disagree with roe v wade... so that means that you want to redefine when a zygote, embryo, or a fetus has what anyone would rule for lack of better words "the right to life"... .
exactly when is life, human as per your definition?
Life starts at conception. When sperm & egg unite, a new life begins.
Abortion is the ultimate child abuse.
.."except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled...."
everyone that eats meat also consumes some whole animal blood with it and that does not violate the bible injunction on blood.
god allows it.
Blood is sacred to God because it is a symbol of LIFE. So.....what means MORE to God? The symbol.........or the ACTUAL LIFE of a person??
It's pretty much a no-brainer.
Lavendar
.."except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled...."
everyone that eats meat also consumes some whole animal blood with it and that does not violate the bible injunction on blood.
god allows it.
