That is frustrating, littletree. I have a friend who has a "worldly" boyfriend and has openly admitted it. You would think they'd be pleased with her honesty, but instead they are just mad that they can't DF her because they can't prove fornication. At one meeting they told her that they wanted to talk to her because her boyfriend's car had been seen in her driveway by two witnesses. She refused, and they had to drop the issue. I wonder what they will do next, look in her windows?
Posts by Chia
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17Frustration
by Chia init just blows my mind.
i am an adult, and i can't go out without getting the third degree.
i can't have a phone/internet conversation without being interrogated and/or watched.
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BLOOD!
by woodland insorry to bring up this old chestnut, but?
have the jw?s changed their stance on blood transfusions?
i was talking to a lady at work that has jw relatives, and she said it was now a matter of conscience.
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Chia
Yes, and now with the new book, disassociated and disfellowshipped people are treated the same way. They don't even announce the difference, they're just no longer a member. Either way, if you get a blood transfusion, you're definitely going to get kicked out of the Witnesses. I always had it marked on my proxy that I will accept everything short of a blood transfusion.
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BLOOD!
by woodland insorry to bring up this old chestnut, but?
have the jw?s changed their stance on blood transfusions?
i was talking to a lady at work that has jw relatives, and she said it was now a matter of conscience.
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Chia
No way! It's still most definitely a DFing offense if you take blood.
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Frustration
by Chia init just blows my mind.
i am an adult, and i can't go out without getting the third degree.
i can't have a phone/internet conversation without being interrogated and/or watched.
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Chia
Thanks for putting it into perspective, Crumpet. She is after all, worried about my everlasting death. Even so, can't she realize that it is my decision to make, not hers?
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Did your responsibilities in the congregation prevent you from travelling?
by truthseeker inif you were a ministerial servant, or an elder, did your congregational responsibilities hurt your travel plans?
did you go to the meeting instead of going out with other witnesses for a vacation?.
did you say, "i'm taking out the group" or "i'm doing the sound" ?.
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Chia
I don't really like to travel, but when I took little vacations, it was no big deal. Then again, I was only a pioneer, so there you go. But people go on cruises and vacations all the time where I'm at and nothing ever happens to them. They do have talks saying you should make arrangements to attend the meeting while on your vacation. Yeah right.
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Frustration
by Chia init just blows my mind.
i am an adult, and i can't go out without getting the third degree.
i can't have a phone/internet conversation without being interrogated and/or watched.
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Chia
It's extremely frustrating. My sister is the worst at this type of thing. She always wants to spend time with me, or organize trivial little "gatherings" to take up my time. She'll say something like, "We're going bowling this weekend," to which I'm supposed to say, "Of course! I'd love to come!" But I always tell her "Maybe." She's learned by now that maybe means no. The last time she asked me, "Why don't you want to hang out with people?" She knows that I am slipping away and that there isn't a thing she can do about it. But while I'm still home, she does things that are very invasive, and it's just so upsetting! I get so angry with her sometimes.
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Frustration
by Chia init just blows my mind.
i am an adult, and i can't go out without getting the third degree.
i can't have a phone/internet conversation without being interrogated and/or watched.
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Chia
It just blows my mind. I am an adult, and I can't go out without getting the third degree. I can't have a phone/internet conversation without being interrogated and/or watched. Anywhere else this type of behavior would be invasion of privacy, but because I'm a Dub, it's "keeping an eye on the flock."
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Forfeiting Scriptural Grounds
by little t inhas anyone been in the position of losing scriptural grounds for divorce?.
what forgives a guilty mate?
a. kissing.
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I might be wrong, but I was once told by an elder that the "innocent" mate, the one that didn't commit adultery, has to decide in a certain amount of time whether the marriage is worth saving. In other words, if he/she withholds sex for a long time, but doesn't make a move on the divorce, eventually the "guilty" party can also pursue a scriptural divorce, because the "innocent" one is showing they don't forgive by not allowing the "guilty" one back in the marriage bed.
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My father will lose his privileges if he attends my sister's wedding
by Goldminer inmy sister is planning on getting married within the next few months.her jw husband committed adultery and left her when their son was 7 weeks old.after getting a scriptural divorce she began a friendship with a "worldly" man and now this friendship has grown to a soon-to-be marriage.
this man studied with the jw's for a while but could see right through them found too many of their teachings didn't make sense so he stopped studying.he's made his stand with my sister and told her she can still attend meetings if she wants to.he's also a good worker and seems to really love the kids.he's not perfect but no worse than many jw husbands.
anyways,the elders pulled my dad aside on tuesday night and told him he could(could????!@#*?
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Chia
I am sad for your father, Goldminer. I know I'm just a newbie here, but that's a difficult situation to be put into. I agree with the person who said that it depends on where you go. I do know of a similar situation, where the groom was raised around the "truth" and his wife was not a Witness. I believe it was announced that people shouldn't go to the wedding and not a lot of people went. The bride was crying. But I know a pioneer sister who went, and as far as I know, she never lost her privileges for it. It's just a sad situation.
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Did You Ever Think You'd No Longer Be A Witness?
by minimus indid you ever dream that you'd be posting here too?
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Chia
Never in my wildest dreams. Even when I had "sinned", I still thought I would be a Witness. Even after being reproved, I still thought I would continue to be a Witness. It amazes me how I ended up here, but I'm glad I did. I'm scared, I'm still learning, but I also feel very free.