They probably don't like the idea of the Bethelites all scattered through the neighborhoods in little residences. There are too many opportunities for social, (non-religious) gatherings... at the bistros, shops, groceries, cafes... If they could consolidate them in just a couple of buildings: 90 Sands, Dumbo, with shuttle, tunnels, cafeteria and commissary, suddenly it becomes very inconvenient to duck out for lunch, or go for a quick shop after work and skip Bethel Dinner. Instead of walking downstairs and 1/2 a block to these things, it's a shuttle ride or a very long walk. No time. They become more isolated with every change. I laughed when I read the part in bold... When I was at Bethel one of those resisdences had a party one night that brought in the cops... One of the antics that occured was that some Bethelite was taking a leak out the second story window of the resisdence...
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Followup on activity at NYC Bethel
by startingover ini posted something a few days ago on friends regarding printing still being done in nyc.
i have some new info and am putting it under scandals because it doesn't move so fast.. i have family members that just returned from a trip to nyc.
they did the tours in brooklyn, walkill and patterson.
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Fistfights at the KH/ assembly hall.
by avishai inanother topic brought this up.
my dad slugged a guy who beat up his own wife, my dad's childhood friend, during the intermission right after the public talk.
which my dad gave, he was guest speaker.
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wunce_wuz
When I was at Bethel there was the occasional, but rare, settling of scores, which took place in the Squibb building...
...Then there was the one morning at the next table over that a guy who was known to have a short fuse, his wife had a black eye...
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Execution in United States Are You For It?
by jayhawk1 infrom the ap.... raleigh, n.c. - a man who killed his wife and father-in-law pinned his hopes on last-minute intervention from the governor or the courts as he awaited lethal injection early friday in the nation's 1,000th execution since capital punishment resumed in 1977. kenneth lee boyd, set to die at 2 a.m., spent the day receiving visitors, including two sons who watched him gun down their mother and grandfather in 1988. .
my questions are; are you for or against the death penalty?
what was your opinion of the death penalty as a jehovah's witness?.
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http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5036
The 1000th Execution
December 1st, 2005Evidently, reporting the constant drip, drip, drip of casualties from the Iraq War has been so much fun for the American media that they have decided to apply the same water torture technique to propagandizing another favorite cause: death penalty abolition.
Yes, this week we have been treated to a deluge of spontaneous stories marking the fact that the United States will soon execute its 1000th poor, helpless murderer since 1976, the year the Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty – after having suspended it foolishly in 1972.
One thousand is, of course, an important milestone, since numbers ending in zero have a magical power upon little minds – and “1000” has three zeroes at its end. Thus, we are all to reflect on the horror we have wrought as a nation. One thousand deaths – and for what? Obviously, we should withdraw from capital punishment immediately.
You can’t blame the left for trying to recreate its latest glory, I suppose. The death clock in Iraq has been very effective in creating a sense of despair and the news is what you make it, after all.
But it is interesting that not all milestones seem equally worthy of commemoration. For example, no one marked 1525 this week. That is the minimum number of people that have been murdered by the 999 evil people we have executed since 1976. And that estimate is undoubtedly low, since many of the media-mourned 999 killed more people than those for which we bothered convicting them.
For example, Ted Bundy, important death number 106, was convicted of just 3 murders. His true total is estimated in the dozens. If we assign him only the 28 murders he has confessed to, then the non-magic milestone this week is actually 1553.
Maybe it’s because it doesn’t end in even a single zero that the 1525 victims figure is ignored? But then the all-important “1000 victims of the executed” milestone has long since passed. We reached that un-marked total sometime around mid-2000, possibly when Texas executed Jessy Carlos San Miguel (important death number 650) for killing four people while robbing a Taco Bell – including a pregnant teenage girl and her 23-year-old cousin.
Or what about 573,553 as a milestone? That is how many murder victims there have been in the United States since 1976. Again, that milestone is inexplicably not being covered by those who can so value 1000 lives – if they are lost on death row. The 500,000 victims mark was also missed back in 2001, even with five zeroes in its favor. As was 400,000 (1995), 300,000 (1991), 200,000 (1986), 100,000 (1981), or even 1000 – reached just three weeks after the court reauthorized capital punishment in the midst of one of the greatest violent crime epidemics in the nation’s history –an epidemic that began coincidentally with the modern Left”s obsession with the rights of criminals and has eased as the nation has increasingly rejected this movement.
Or how about 400,000? That is a rough estimate of the number of murderers that the nation has had to subdue since 1976. That figure assumes that each murderer killed about 1.5 people. This is likely too conservative an estimate, since most murderers are not as bad as the few that end up on death row, where 1.5 is the average. If one assumes that most non-death row murderers have killed only once, then the number of murderers is closer to 500,000.
In the last 29 years, we have been cursed with 500,000 murderers and yet we have executed only 1000 of them –just one-fifth of one percent. And yet the media would have us believe that America’s justice system is harsh. Far from being a state-run killing machine for huge numbers of run-of-the-mill murderers, our capital punishment system is incredibly lenient—99.8% of murderers are spared its sting.
The only remarkable thing about the 1000th execution is that it didn’t occur twenty years ago. If we had applied the death penalty only to the worst 10% of murderers, and allowed 90% to serve only jail time, we could have easily executed 50,000 by now – and still been lenient. One wonders what the effect on the murder rate would be if every potential murderer knew he had a 1 in 10 chance of having his crime visited back upon him.
If the media want to keep a count of something, perhaps they should count the innocent lives lost to murder. Any six weeks of Peace in America are as deadly to Americans as the last three years of War in Iraq. Yet we continue to treat violent crime as a national nuisance to be handled with politically correct gloves.
The media can tolerate huge numbers of deaths when it suits their agenda. And they can whine over the deaths of a statistical handful when that suits the agenda better – even if that handful is composed of extremely evil men, found guilty by a jury of their peers, and judged to be among the worst one-fifth of one percent of all murderers in the country.
One thousand executions? It’s a start; but that’s about all it is.
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Gilead School Speakers 2005
by Blueblades indavid walker, ralph walls, samuel herd, mark noumair, lawrence bowman, wallace liverance, anthony morris, leonard pearson, gerrit losch and fred rusk all had a part on the 119th graduating class of the watchtower bible school of gilead.. who is anthony morris?
he is on the governing body.
when did this happen?.
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wunce_wuz
David Walker, Ralph Walls, Samuel Herd, Mark Noumair, Lawrence Bowman, Wallace Liverance, Anthony Morris, Leonard Pearson, Gerrit Losch and Fred Rusk all had a part on the 119th Graduating Class of the Watchtower Bible School of Gilead.
Ralph Walls..... I remember when he was bindary floor overseer; same floor I worked on. Very adept with Bethel politics. One of the last memorable statements he made to me before I left was, "we're management and we'll always win." Good advice for my then upcoming career change but a belated eye opening statement at that point in time.....
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sorry to go on about this but....they were actual Hell's Angels? Not just biker gang wannabees? They were actually HAs....that have primarily only existed on the West Coast of America? I'm interested in knowing if this gang went beyonf the US and Mexico.,,,
Hells Angels website: http://www.hells-angels.com/
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Do you charge your 18+ kids rent?
by tall penguin ini've been wondering what people think about this.
as soon as i turned 18 and had an income (it was disability but income just the same) my parents began to charge me room and board.
is this common practice?
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The day after I graduated from high school I got charged rent for living at home. As my parents said, "there are no free rides in life". The sooner I learned that, the better. It sucked, but learn I did...
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Homosexuality at Bethel
by Sam the Man inwhilst at london bethel, i witnessed this first hand.
i know that it went on there.
those from brooklyn bethel (i understand that there are a few ex brooklyn bethelites here), the question i have for you is 'did you witness/hear of any over your side of the pond?
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wunce_wuz
Yes there was. My first day at Brooklyn Bethel I meet another guy, which was also his first day, from the NYC area. A number of months later he and a number of others were gone for gay activities. That was March of '75--those that remember Knorr's lecture that morning...well...it was quite memorable....
There were other times that guys were dismissed for gay activities and a number of guys I knew that left and heard later that they came out.
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Pipe bomb at Bethel.
by Etude indoes anyone remember the incident that happened back in the summer of 1974 at what was called the "squibb" building at bethel where a pipe bomb detonated at one of the doors just under the bridge that spanned the complex across columbia heights?
i was at bethel at the time and i even have a picture of two nypd cops standing in front of the scene the day after (if i can only find the picture).
i was thinking of posting it on this forum but i don't know how.
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wunce_wuz
I remember that. Actually heard the thing explode. I was like wtf was that? Knew it was not a car backfiring and pretty sure it was not a gun...hand gun. Found out later that day it was a pipe bomb. As stated there was an article in the newspaper, I remember sending it to my family. Do not remember if there was any conclusion to the investigation.
On a side note that building had another incident of note. One morning as the workers arrive and open the windows there was a dead body behind building/alley way. Mob style execution.
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List Your Favorite Foreign (non-American) Films Here!
by Funchback ini hope this thread receives a lot of responses.
not because i am egotistical.
heck, really, i like any sort of film.
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Retour de Martin Guerre, Le << http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084589/
Europa Europa << http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099776/
We of the Never Never << http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084893/
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Drama at DC in KC
by stillajwexelder in.
well basically it was aimed at youths and was all about timothy and the apostle paul.
it was rammed down everybodys throat --no college- get pionerring just like timothy
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Well basically it was aimed at youths and was all about Timothy and the apostle Paul. It was rammed down everybodys throat --no college
When I was at Bethel a number of guys I knew and worked with were college grads before coming jw's. They all wound up with the better technical/skilled jobs. It was an observation not lost on the rest of us who skipped college back then.