I think you all should come up to montreal...
We have better beer... plus it is warm now!
(montreal has some of the best strip joints in the world!!)
how far would you drive or fly to go to an apostofest?
or how far have you driven to get to one?.
i plan on going to the one in wisconsin in july........just 2400 miles round trip....... they better have cold canadian beer..... .
I think you all should come up to montreal...
We have better beer... plus it is warm now!
(montreal has some of the best strip joints in the world!!)
my sister is planning on getting married within the next few months.her jw husband committed adultery and left her when their son was 7 weeks old.after getting a scriptural divorce she began a friendship with a "worldly" man and now this friendship has grown to a soon-to-be marriage.
this man studied with the jw's for a while but could see right through them found too many of their teachings didn't make sense so he stopped studying.he's made his stand with my sister and told her she can still attend meetings if she wants to.he's also a good worker and seems to really love the kids.he's not perfect but no worse than many jw husbands.
anyways,the elders pulled my dad aside on tuesday night and told him he could(could????!@#*?
Luke 12:51-53:
"Do you imagine I came to give peace on the earth? No, indeed, I tell you but rather division. For from now on there will be five in one house divided, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother...."
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the journey being life, what have you discovered that you never expected to... could be a musician, actor, a movie, a type of food, a thought, a realisation, a religion, a thing about your personality or an emotion, a particular song... it could be anything really.... what have you discovered?
Living for today is better than dreading tomorrow.
Love endures ALL THINGS.... (not just the things within the rules of the WTS)
There is more than one "true god"... as there is more than one religion and more than one way of thinking.
Not all questions need or have answers.
The world is sooo much bigger than I thought it was!
i have already posted bits and bobs about my "story"... i like the companionship i have found here and i feel it about time i get this off my chest, so here it goes.
i am a 20 year old montrealer (it is me above!
) who was brought up a witness from the day i was born.
I have lost my real mom as a friend, but there is always a silver lining...
Daniel's mom has been sooo supportive and wonderful. She has really taken me under her wing.. I talk to her more than Daniel does!!
She has become my "hiding place from the wind and a place of concealment from the rainstorm, like streams of water in a waterless country, like the shadow of a heavy crag in an exhausted land" (Isaiah 32:2)
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it may happen in georgia
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If I was still as zealous as I was when I got baptized... for sure! What is money compared to the wonderful priviledge of preaching the good news of the kingdom?!
(personally, I only mentioned the donation thing if I left a book... for mags, i would just give myself.)
They tried passing a law like that here in Blainville, QC... they lost!
my sister is planning on getting married within the next few months.her jw husband committed adultery and left her when their son was 7 weeks old.after getting a scriptural divorce she began a friendship with a "worldly" man and now this friendship has grown to a soon-to-be marriage.
this man studied with the jw's for a while but could see right through them found too many of their teachings didn't make sense so he stopped studying.he's made his stand with my sister and told her she can still attend meetings if she wants to.he's also a good worker and seems to really love the kids.he's not perfect but no worse than many jw husbands.
anyways,the elders pulled my dad aside on tuesday night and told him he could(could????!@#*?
My parents already told me they won't attend my wedding... (my dad is an "MS" and attending my wedding would no doubt screw that up)
My dad e-mailed me a month or so ago to say that my pioneer sister is getting married this summer and I am NOT invited. In fact, I dont know her address or where the wedding is going to be. He wouldn't even tell me who she is marrying!
What can you do? To them, the org is more important than their own flesh and blood.
Sick if you ask me.
i have already posted bits and bobs about my "story"... i like the companionship i have found here and i feel it about time i get this off my chest, so here it goes.
i am a 20 year old montrealer (it is me above!
) who was brought up a witness from the day i was born.
Thanks for the warm welcome.
i have already posted bits and bobs about my "story"... i like the companionship i have found here and i feel it about time i get this off my chest, so here it goes.
i am a 20 year old montrealer (it is me above!
) who was brought up a witness from the day i was born.
Hello Everyone,
I have already posted bits and bobs about my "story"... I like the companionship I have found here and I feel it about time I get this off my chest, so here it goes.
I am a 20 year old Montrealer (it is me above!) who was brought up a witness from the day I was born. My mother was brought up a witness also and my father converted when he was 17-18. I have three sisters, no brothers.
I lived in the same house/neighbourhood/congragation untill I was 13 years old; at which point I moved to a new place. I started Sec II (grade 8) in a new school and met a boy... (Daniel, one year older than me!) Well, I fell for him... hard. He fell for me. However, in the background my parents were "encouraging" me towards baptisim... talk about turmoil. Our relationship was on and off for a long time. It was difficult to date someone you couldnt see outside of school and were not allowed to talk to. Finally in Grd 10 I made up my mind, I was going to be a witness. I broke up with Daniel, prayed to Jehovah for forgivness and dedicated my life to him.
I was baptised when I was 15 years old and like most witnesses my age had great ambitions about going off to Bethel or Missionary school etc. But everyday when I went to school and saw Daniel... it hurt me. I missed him... that is when the doubts started... why couldn't I be with him. Surely a loving god could understand that?! Daniel and I got back together. The guilt was killing me... I couldn't do this...UGH!
Then in my graduating year of High School, Daniel broke up with me! I was crushed. He said he didn't see me enough... that he didn't like that he couldn't call me or hold my hand in public; that he couldn't deal with a "secret" relationship anymore.
Well, I graduated HS and started a business administration course. This time I was further away from home, near a public transit system and had teachers that didn't require a note when I was absent... hrm... interesting. School was always easy for me so I breezed through the course taking long lunches and most afternoons off. I then started dating a fellow witness... nice guy... he was also having doubts. I got a part-time job at a clothing store in a tiny little mall close to my parents house. One day at work, I glanced across to the store across the way and low and behold guess who was there? Yup, you got it... Daniel. I started to cry. What was I doing... this wasn't right. My heart was in the wrong place.
I broke up with Troy explaining that it wasn't fair of me to date him since I obviously had such strong feelings still. One day on my work break I built up the nerve to go say hi. I melted... he melted... we hugged and wouldn't let go. We started dating again, which was much easier this time due to my new found freedom. My commenting diminished... I would make my work schedule purposely conflict with meetings and field service... personal study was non-existant. My parents got worried.
Then one day, I went over to daniel's house to watch a movie and it happened... the life altering moment. I will suffice to say that we watched the movie "Road Trip" 4 times in a row and I still have no idea what that movie is about!
My parents figured out what was going on and asked me some questions, I told them exactly what I had been up to... however I had one more scarey tidbit to add for them... I was pregnent. (I was 17)
I lived with my parents for a month after that conversation. I moved out (and in with Daniel) 5 days before my disfellowshipping was announced.
3 months later I miscarried. That was the hardest day of my life. 17... miscarried... confused... no mom to talk to. All I can say, is my children will NEVER experience that.
Now, I am 20. I still live with Daniel and we are planning to get engaged by the fall. I haven't spoken to anyone from my childhood including my close relatives since the day I moved out.
Since then, I have taken up studying paganisim... interesting I must say!
I have some friends who are committed to "de-programming" me... they suggested I get in touch with some people who have had similar experiences... I think it is the best piece of advice I have ever had.
Thanks for the listening ear... I look forward to getting to know you all better!
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well, just wondering if there are any montrealers on this board?
also am looking for someone from the novato, ca area who can help me find a long lost friends daughter.
Me Me! Montrealer born and raised!!
just a thought from tonight's bible reading that kinda hit in a funny way.
in all my years i've never heard this scripture used like this.
*** rbi8 1 samuel 21:12-13 ***
That isn't the first time I heard that kind of talk...
(ie. if the police came to your door looking for an eldrer...etc.)
Apparently it is ok to lie or do something against the law if you are obeying "gods laws"
Look at the kidnapping kids out of hospitals if they loose a court order for a blood transfusion... if pushed enough they will do alot of things they normally would condemn people for.