jwfacts: thank you for the PM, it will be most helpful! :-) "I sent in an annulment letter to the Service committee saying that at 16 I was a minor and so the contract was not valid. They said there may be some validity to that," I also aux pioneered but never as an adult only ever as young teenager. I don't really care if my family chooses to associate with me or not, no doubt they will consider any annulment (if successful) to be a technicality. This is really for my own peace of mind. I don't think I was of age to make such a decision and I want my concerns to be heard. Again, thanks for the advice/comments! :-)
Krystal
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Baptisim/Disfellowshipping & Age
by Krystal ini apologize if i am re-posting a topic that was already discussed, but i have a question:.
i was baptised when i was 14 and disfellowshipped at 17... major life changing decisions all made before i was 18. .
has anyone ever tried to have their baptisim/disfellowshipping annulled based on the fact that they were too young to enter into such a contract?
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WTS advocates resisting rape to the point of death?
by M.J. inover the years the wts has vacillated on its stance regarding the distinction between rape and mutual consent to fornication.. in years past, the wts has stated that "the primary distinction between rape and consent was whether a woman screamed for help.
" (awake!, 4/22/73, p. 17).. the wts's latest published stance, however, states that while the act of screaming establishes innocence of the victim, screaming in itself is not the sole criteria for determining the victim's innocence before god.
if one is incapable of screaming, it does not matter, since jehovah can read a person's motives:.
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OMG, yet another example of how unloving this organization really is! As if a woman who is being raped would have the ability to think back to the watchtower articles on how exactly she should behave!
You can tell the damn magazine is written by men!
Disgusting.
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Baptisim/Disfellowshipping & Age
by Krystal ini apologize if i am re-posting a topic that was already discussed, but i have a question:.
i was baptised when i was 14 and disfellowshipped at 17... major life changing decisions all made before i was 18. .
has anyone ever tried to have their baptisim/disfellowshipping annulled based on the fact that they were too young to enter into such a contract?
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Krystal
Thanks for your comments, I was just thinking of that the other day, why was I allowed to make this all important life decision when my parents were still telling me what time to go to bed? Ridiculous!
Well, I intend to draft a letter to the congergation, my parents, and TO Bethel regarding this issue. I was thinking of consulting an attorney to see if there is anything legally I can do about it. I will keep you all posted!
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Disclaimer Letter
by feelinsketchy inalthough i haven't personally seen the letter (hopefully i will tomorrow night), it seems clear that this would have a serious effect on the core teachings.
how do you go from listen to us unquestioningly, even when we're wrong we're right and if you think about doubting us you're gonna die to "well, all of what we say is open to interpretation and these are just suggestions?
how do you reconcile things like the blood issue, neutrality, holidays, even dress and grooming to this stance?
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so unless you have proof its best not talking about it.wise dont you think?
That is the smartest thing PMJ has ever said! LOL Since you have no tangible proof of the existence of God, or the second coming of Christ, or the end of the world, or the beast being the UN, or the promise of "paradise earth", how about you stop talking about those things? Wise don't you think?
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Baptisim/Disfellowshipping & Age
by Krystal ini apologize if i am re-posting a topic that was already discussed, but i have a question:.
i was baptised when i was 14 and disfellowshipped at 17... major life changing decisions all made before i was 18. .
has anyone ever tried to have their baptisim/disfellowshipping annulled based on the fact that they were too young to enter into such a contract?
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Krystal
I apologize if I am re-posting a topic that was already discussed, but I have a question:
I was baptised when I was 14 and disfellowshipped at 17... major life changing decisions all made before I was 18.
Has anyone ever tried to have their baptisim/disfellowshipping annulled based on the fact that they were too young to enter into such a contract?
I mean, if you think about it, the government doesn't even consider you old enough to vote or drink before you are 18, why would you be allowed to be held for the rest of your life to a decision you made when you were so young? Is there any legal precedent?
Just curious... I don't think I would have ever made the decision to be baptised had I waited untill I was older.
Lemme know what you think.
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Sad!
by hibiscusfire inyou all making me very sad and depressed.
my heart is aching really bad.
tears are right there.. hibie
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Krystal
Yeah I think she could used a little humility and a whole lot of real wisdom - the mock wisdom she keeps spewing just turns my stomach.
I agree. Very well said!
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Sad!
by hibiscusfire inyou all making me very sad and depressed.
my heart is aching really bad.
tears are right there.. hibie
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Krystal
I can put her back on level ground in my mind if she is humble about her past - but I see none of that here, do you?
I see the same attention craving Hibi we are all used to.
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Sad!
by hibiscusfire inyou all making me very sad and depressed.
my heart is aching really bad.
tears are right there.. hibie
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Krystal
I gotta say though, when I think of you trashing on EvilForce as some disgusting gay abomination (according to YOU)
I seem to remember alot of controversy starting over Hibi's comments... Examples:
Under the topic "Dating: How far should you go?"
dams:
This is a personal choice for everyone. It is up to the person to decide what course of action they are going to take.
What if the personal choice is the wrong one? Do you really think the person is mature enough to make such a decision?
Hibe
Avoid men who've got abunch of children by a bunch of different women. He didn't marry them when he got them pregnant, WHY would he treat you any differently?
On the topic: Xmas/Christmas
Krystal:
I don't celebrate Christmas... why? Cause I don't see the point in celebrating the birth of a 2000 year old carpenter.
I celebrate xmas because I enjoy giving gifts to my family and friends.
So yes, I will continue to "X" christ out of it
That is being boldfaced and ungrateful. HibieWhen I see an “X” replacing the Christ in Christmas it is upsetting. I feel that it is taking the meaning out of Christmas. It is like saying that what happened on that day wasn’t important. Jesus the Savior is born and that is what it really is about. It is not about presents, Santa, and Christmas trees, although that stuff is fun.
undercover: Christmas is the real thing. You are being selfish. Hibe
I could start a whole new thread of posts that are similar to the ones above... Hibi, you are rude. Often. I stopped posting here for a while because I didn't want to read your closed minded responses. If you are looking for sympathy here, I will provide none.
When I post some messages, some reponses are so harsh they hurt me immensly. And you know what I'm like, "Geez I've got to be really hateable!"
Re-read some of your own responses, they are often harsh. If you don't like the way you are being treated, then maybe you should take a look at they way you treat people. -Krystal
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Are you weird too?
by kittyeatzjdubs indo you have sorta weird habits in your day to day life?.
example: here at work, i will only use one stall in the bathroom.
the one second from the left.
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Dams~ I do exactly the same thing... I have a clear shower curtain for that exact reason! I had bought a colored inside curtain because my BF hates the clear curtain, but I ended up throwing it away! I would run out of hot water cause I kept stopping to peek at the rest of the bathroom!! LOL (I thought I was alone in the weirdness!!)
I also have this thing about people touching my ankles... I get very very anxious if u even gentely brush up against my ankle.... I freak out. My BF got kicked in the head first time he did it.
I CANT SNEEZE! LOL ... well, I can, but you would never hear it!! hehe I was always taught it was rude to sneeze so I can't really let myself sneeze... my co-worker is always teasing me about it!
My BF always teases me because of the way I eat... I tend to NEVER mix food on my plate... it is kept very seperate and I tend to put my food "in order" in the sense that I line things up on my plate. (ie. peas/beans/pasta etc.)
How many more can I think of? Geez... I think I am going to commit myself.
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there are like NO PEOPLE in NW Canada!! lol
I think it should be Quebec! Quebecers smoke, drink and have more sex than any other province! (that is what makes this such a great place to live)