before you even made it to my door, you'd see a large spuce burl finely sanded and polished hanging on the entrance wall with the following carved into it. "Welcome to Our Home" Then when you get to the front door, you'd see it is mostly clear glass so you can feel you are inside before you even get there. All are welcome, of any faith or no faith at all. The living room focuses on the fire place with a large framed tapestry from India over the mantle. It is a fine silk hand made picture of a Shik prince with his wedding enturage. On the center table between the couches is a display of three beautiful coffee table books with pictures of of Israel and more specifically Haifa and the surounding country side. The living room and dining room are accented with large house plants with four large windows looking out over the bay. My collection of elephants from several countries accents the built in wall library that also shares space with a built-in stereo. the lap top is well hidden along side my overstuffed chair. My black and white terrier is asleep on the ottoman. come on in, I'll put on the coffee pot unless you'd prefer herbal tea or maybe a couple fingers of unsweetened grape or cranberry juice. carmel
Posts by Carmel
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64If I was to walk into your home . . .
by Lady Lee inwhat one thing would i see that would tell me the most about you?.
the center of my home is my computer and my books.
standing at the door that is the first thing you will see.
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Will you always see yourself as an "Ex-JW"?
by Gayle ini guess that's how it will always be for me,,i've moved on,,all my family is "out' thankfully,,but i spent too many years there, and i won't ever become a member of a religion,,in jest, you are my "church" i guess.
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Carmel
Of course not! No more than I am an ex-sixth grader, seventh grader, etc. I'm a former agnostic but that is not my identity. I am what I am now, not what I'm not any more! carmel of the "brotherhood of man" class
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What will it take for me to stop this?
by sibboleth ini have lurked for over a year.
i keep coming back here - everytime i do - it's like witnessing a car wreck.
the things i don't want to read or believe are right here before my eyes - it's like a drug.
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Carmel
It's said "life begins at 40" so I don't see what the problem is! You've probably another 40 or so to enjoy the bounties of life. Live well, It's the best pay back to the elder's club. carmel
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Who is the most influential figure in the history of human civilization?
by Blueblades inwherever you stand on the god question, or, think you do, i believe god is the most influential figure in the history of human civilization.
not just any god, but the god that created adam and eve; the god of abraham, the god of the jews; the god of the christians; and the god of islam.
what sort of character does he have?
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Carmel
Adam! by xtian accounts, he's passed on to every single person ever to live then inheritance that makes us all have to struggle against da debil. carmel
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Who is the most influential figure in the history of human civilization?
by Blueblades inwherever you stand on the god question, or, think you do, i believe god is the most influential figure in the history of human civilization.
not just any god, but the god that created adam and eve; the god of abraham, the god of the jews; the god of the christians; and the god of islam.
what sort of character does he have?
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Carmel
Boy is this place christocentic or what? Only 1/4 of humanity are christinian...... carmel
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guilt feelings sometimes
by amara ini was raised as a jw from the age of 4, my father was an elder for 18 years, was a auxillary pioneer for years, been there done all that and decided to leave at age 30, i have chosen a pagan path and am very happy but sometimes i feel guilty for no reason, does anyone else ever have this problem?
if you do, how do you handle it?
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Carmel
guilty about what? Ya got notin to feel guilty about, mam! carmel
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I could have been a Mormon!
by Zico induring my childhood, my father would often tell stories of his life to me, one of his favourites being the story of how he became a jehovah's witness.
during some travels in the late 70s, he had his first real experience with the bible, when he shared a room with a christian fundy in israel.
the fundy introduced him to many bible topics, such as the king of the north and babylon the great.
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Carmel
Cause and effect traps are constantly surrounding us in all walks of life. The "black cat" fear is simply people having a bad experiance soon after crossing paths with pussy negra. Same with breaking a mirror or walking under a ladder. Too bad we want to connect dots that are not associated with each other but sadly, that is the way humans tend to abuse science. One anecdotal reference and we're ready to sign our lives over to some silly notion. carmel
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WhooHoo!!
by mrsjones5 ingood news everybody!
got through the first interview, moving on to the second interview at the job headquarters!
yeah!!
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Carmel
Good onya! JumpinJehosie carm
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Anyone here, have you had enough religion for the rest of your life?
by restrangled inthats how i feel,..... no disrespect for those who find another way or place to worship.
i for one cannot stand any religion on any level.
how do you feel?.
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I think your situation is pretty normal. Most here on the board are discusted with religion "as they know it" or "percieve it". It took me a few years of going from one Christian denomination to another before throwing up my hands in disqust. Became a confirmed agnostic, wouldn't go so far as atheist as that was making a claim I couldn't substantiate any more than theism. After many years an agnostic and having been exposed to a lot more religious thought outside the limited scope of Christian dogma and theory, I was open to a paradigm that was inclusive rather than the exclusivity of 99% of humanity. It feels wonderful now to accept all of humanity as a brotherhood, one like immature siblings has its growth pangs and spats, but will eventually reach maturity. I enjoy nothing more than a thoughtful discussion on religion, so, nope, not burned out any more. carmel
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Where would we be now if there was never a concept of God?
by dh inif (for the sake of argument for those who believe in god) there was no god, and no human being who ever lived had ever come up with or even had a concept of god or a higher being.
where do you think we as human beings would be today.
what do you think our history would be like, and our future?
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Most of our traceable civilizations can be accredited to the elan that was created when an exceptional human being endowed with something "special" came upon the human landscape. Society lurches forward then regresses in cycles of ever widening levels of unification while at the same time developing better ways of doing harm. The "special human" beings all claimed to be reflecting a "higher power" a "divinity" if you will. Were they all frauds or just hullcinating from an overdose of mushrooms? Why have they sparked such advancements in human civilization then had those same civilizations rot on the vine over time? Persia is a perfect example. Once the crown jewell of the world, now a backward warfaring joke for a nation mocking any freedom or degree of humanity or justice. Most of the Islamic world fits this description, but Persia was the center of human advancement at one time. Isn't this the decay that has set in all the religions and civilizations? Isn't there a descernable pattern here? Was not Europe in the depths of darkness until the brilliance of Islamic scholarship made its way north? Many would claim that humans devised the concept of "god" but could it be equally plausible that they were taught the concept from one or more of these vicergents? carmel