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  Should I DA myself?

  by OMG! Now What? in

  1. jw
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  i'm new here and am hoping to get some support and become normal again.

  i'm going to tell my story below, sorry in advance for how long it is, but i've really gotta get a grip on who i am now and what i need to do.

  since before my baptism and for four years, my children and i attended every meeting.

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  Carmel

  OMG, what ever you choose to do, I wish you peace, happiness and prosperity. You deserve to find contentment in your life and certitude in your spiritual/religious quest. Take heart. It's a wonderful world full of possibilities beyond your fondest dreams. carmel
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  For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead...

  by Chalam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this one bugged me for a while.

  i will quote the nwt for all the ex jws here ;) .

  ecclesiastes 9 nwt .

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  Death is clearly referred to as a spiritual state. "Let the dead bury the dead" could not be understood if Jesus was not intending to demonstrate that those who chose not to believe were "dead" while still walking about! carmel
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  Who else has zero friends?

  by tsunami_rid3r in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am now a junior in college, and i have my own place.

  i don't really like having roommates at all.

  i just left in the middle of a lease because my ex-roommate was being a pain in the ass.

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  friendships are earned not bequethed. You have to extend yourself in genuine acts of concern, kindness, interest with enthusiasm and joy. Life will reward you with an instant reflection of new friends.... carmel
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  Things to do tomorrow

  by nvrgnbk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1. treat yourself with kindness.

  2. treat someone else with kindness.

  appreciate, recognize, and dignify a stranger.. .

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  Carmel

  oh...is it the sabbath so soon? Carmel of the "no longer of the once a week club"
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  The end is so close...

  by sspo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  received email from a friend- enjoy it- the end is always around the corner.

  a man is in the mountains, it's night time, he wanders off the road and .

  falls off a cliff.

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  ....not Tuesday please! I have Kiwanis on Tuesdays. Maybe in the pm I'd have time to watch a WW11 re-run! carm
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  Questioning the question of God's existence

  by DT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't know if there is a god.

  if i knew for certain, this piece of knowledge could serve as a foundation for my world view.

  some people are confident they know the answer (both theists and atheists) and their world view is based on this faith.

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  One of the common threads I've noticed on JWD is that we tend to get trapped into literalist thinking, have trouble with the definition of "GOD" in that regard and want to put the "creator" into a cause and effect model. That observation effects matter does not in and of itself mean that matter is either dependant upon observation to exist or that our feeble conception of quantum mechanics is sufficient to address conscousness/matter/God conundrum. Trying to define an "unknowable essense" is like the painting trying to fathom the mind of the artist that created the work of art. The tree beyond which we cannot go prevents us from ever fathoming the unfathomable. I quit lest I bore you. carmel
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  Own up time...

  by Chalam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well it looks like this site is a real melting pot, a broad spectrum of views and beliefs.

  for sure there are many disaffected ex jws.

  so in as few words as possible, preferably not more than one sentence, how would you describe yourself spiritually?

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  Carmel

  ..Baha'i and life long learner
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  What is the official belief about DFed ones?

  by sosad in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my understanding is that if armageddon comes when you are dfed, you are dead.

  of course there is the standard jw caveat for that "only j can judge".

  my dfed brother was committed early this morning to the psych ward.

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  What wonderful loving parents! I thought my parents were the only ones displaying such cold heartedness... not really, it's a common JW behavioral pattern. I hope you can help you brother get some professional help. No elder or non-loving congregation can do anything but drive him over the edge. carmel
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  Interesting article about religion

  by Lo-ru-hamah in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.religioustolerance.org/reltrue.htm .

  happened across this article and thought it was really neat.

  sheri.

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  There are certain re-occuring patterns in the world religions. If one takes a little time to familiarize themselves with them, he will see the patterns and likely lead them to seek a world view or cosmology adumbrated in one of the world's religions extant today that puts them all into context without having to decide whether one is "true" and the remainder all false. carmel
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  Abrahams wife Sarah was actually his half sister

  by evergreen in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  reading through genesis has been an eyeopener for me.

  i was surprised to read in chapter 20 that sarah was in fact abrahams half sister.

  in verse 12 of this chapter, it mentions how abraham and sarah both had the same father, but different mothers.

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  Worse yet Adam and Eve weren't married, so we're all products of bastardization and incest. Cain had to have a wife that was a full blooded sister(s) or else he did the dirty deed with his mom! carmel of the "who takes this stuff literally" class?