The Baha'i Faith promulgates the concept that individuals attaint their intended development (not the same idea as salvation) through working for the "salvation" of all of mankind. The term employed is "ever advancing civilization" as the collective future of humanity. So I guess personal "salvation" is not at issue, but the mutually reinforcing relationship between the individual and the society in which one lives is what is important. carmel
Posts by Carmel
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Is This a Universal Characteristic of Religion?
by hamilcarr inthanks to all who participated in the moral values discussion, i think it was a 'high'-quality (wink at zico --- from 'the highest year') debate.
some posters rightly claimed i was too rash in my generalisations of religion and atheism.
so, i kept on searching for the universal characteristics of religion, i mean those features common to all forms of worship.
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I am happy.
by Bobbi infor so many years i put hours and hours into field service and the like.
hot stuffy cars catering to the whims of old women and arrogant men.
i bit my nails to the quick .
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Carmel
Indeed! Reaching out to help others is the best way of healing our own selves! You are your greatest blessing! I commend you! carmel
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Theocratic Party
by Aleman intoday we have political parties from the republic and democratic sides trying to get your vote so they can get the presidency.
but, can you really trust them?
how secure are you to have a man or woman lead us to a secure and peaceful future?
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Carmel
So Huckleberry is your man? carm
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Eschatological Laundry List
by chickpea ineschatology (from the greek?s?at?
?, eschatos meaning "last" and -logy meaning "the study of") is a part of theology and philosophy concerned with the final events in the history of the world, or the ultimate destiny of humanity, commonly referred to as the end of the world.
( wikipedia).
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Carmel
hmmm, I hope it's free! you'll be getting your money's worth.... carm
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I miss London
by LouBelle ini've been to the u.k a number of times.
always spent a good while in london - i absolutely love it.
i love the business of the underground, i love the shows that theatres offer, i love the sights and sounds so much.
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Carmel
Pander for Picadilli!
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Our congregation's numbers are down. Yippie-kay-yay!
by outofthebox inso, we had the co visit and he told us what undeserving we are.
compared with his last visit, all our numbers are down: less publishers, less hours, less studies, less magazines, less meeting attendance, less baptisms.
then he proceeded to show us how a simple kid and a grandma that can't even read or write do more than us.
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Carmel
otw, thanks for using "less" correctly.
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Sundays suck with no NFL
by 5thGeneration inwhat's a grown man to do?.
sit around all day and 'disqualify himself from serving'?
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Carmel
Thank God for lots of hoops! Sitting around healing from surgery, need lots of hoops.... carmel
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Some questions that I didnt find the answer as a JW Part 1
by tooktheredpill inhaving been raised in the truth, i thought that i had all the answers in the watchtower publications.
but as i started really reading the bible without filters, a lot of stuff started to appear that made no sense to me.
1) genesis 2:2: and by the seventh day god came to the completion of his work that he had made, and he proceeded to rest on the seventh day from all his work that he had made.. .
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Carmel
Literalism in reading either the ot or nt is like unto playing in a sand box and thinking it is the totality of the world. carm
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Could You Live Without God?
by serotonin_wraith ini have said before in past posts - i think a belief in a god is because of two bad reasons.. 1. ignorance (not always deliberate at all) of certain facts.
the universe and life on earth was not designed.. 2. wanting to believe in a god.. so, to focus on the second, i can see why people would want there to be a god.. you see dead loved ones again, you live forever, you have a purpose set out for you, you feel there's always a being with you through even your most difficult times.
for those who believe in a god, could you live without one?
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Carmel
If one believes in God, it seems impossible to "live without" since that would then be denying its existance. So the question is really, have you denyed the existance of God (in what ever term you describe it) and how are you coping with the consequences of your belief?
I don't believe in the god that most of you describe and are in disdain of, but to capture and describe an "unknowable essence" is beyond my capacity. I can deal with the concept of His existance, once I shuck all the silly OT and human encrusted defininitions thereof.
carmel
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World turned upside down...
by Carmel inthings were going swimingly today until i got home with the fancy chocolate peanut butter pie i had specially made for mrs. carmel.
got it into the house without arousing any suspicions and was putting it into the frig for a later valentines day surprise when it slid out of my hand and landed upside down on the kitchen floor...... .
dang!
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Carmel
Things were going swimingly today until I got home with the fancy chocolate peanut butter pie I had specially made for Mrs. Carmel. Got it into the house without arousing any suspicions and was putting it into the frig for a later Valentines Day surprise when it slid out of my hand and landed upside down on the kitchen floor.....
Dang! Now its down to Freddies for flowers!!!
carmel