I was just reading a post from someone and it said that the world is a paradise now, we just have to accept it. It made me think, the jws are always saying how bad things are now and that they are just getting worse. So im wondering, are things really that bad? I am trying to think of things on a worldwide scale that show that things are better than they used to be. Medical research has made it possible for millions of people to live longer than they would have even 100 yrs ago. We live in a world where nations with power will free oppressed people(arguably with political agendas as well, but does that change the fact that they are now free?). In the event of a disaster, there is always and outpouring of support to help victims. Can anyone give some more examples of how things are better now worldwide?
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Are things really that bad?
by gringojj ini was just reading a post from someone and it said that the world is a paradise now, we just have to accept it.
it made me think, the jws are always saying how bad things are now and that they are just getting worse.
so im wondering, are things really that bad?
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Watchtower cd-rom
by gringojj inhey everbody my wife got me the 2004 cd-rom with all the wt and awakes and lots of books post 1950. its great because you can just type in the words and it will search all publications.
too bad it doesnt have pre 1950. oh well
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Hey everbody my wife got me the 2004 cd-rom with all the wt and awakes and lots of books post 1950. Its great because you can just type in the words and it will search all publications. Too bad it doesnt have pre 1950. Oh well
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Saluting the American Flag
by jeffk378 inthe other day my wife and i were at a function and the naitonal anthem was sung.
my wife wouldnt stand because the society tells her not to.
i think this is disgusting.
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You could always tell the jw if they dont like the way things are then they can just vote.......oh wait
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Dateline story
by gringojj inhi does anyone know where i can get the dateline story of the wts on line preferably for free?
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Hi does anyone know where i can get the dateline story of the wts on line preferably for free?
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WTS child abuse policy
by gringojj inhi everyone i have a question what exactly is the policy or procedure with sex abuse and stuff that causes so much controversy?
thanks
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Hi everyone i have a question what exactly is the policy or procedure with sex abuse and stuff that causes so much controversy? thanks
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Looking for jw numbers
by gringojj indoes anyone have any hard numbers on how many people have left the wts over the years?
they claim they are so succesful and that their members are so great but im just wondering how many are dfd, da'd, or just inactive.
what are the ratios of doors they knock on and how many convert?
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how about disfellowshippping and da numbers?
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Looking for jw numbers
by gringojj indoes anyone have any hard numbers on how many people have left the wts over the years?
they claim they are so succesful and that their members are so great but im just wondering how many are dfd, da'd, or just inactive.
what are the ratios of doors they knock on and how many convert?
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does anyone have any hard numbers on how many people have left the wts over the years? they claim they are so succesful and that their members are so great but im just wondering how many are dfd, da'd, or just inactive. what are the ratios of doors they knock on and how many convert?
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Who are the anointed?
by gringojj inexactly who are the anointed?
does the wts have a list of the 144?
i am curious to find out if they are all white people from brooklyn.
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Exactly who are the anointed? Does the wts have a list of the 144? I am curious to find out if they are all white people from Brooklyn. The wts doesnt seem to give much info about this subject.
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Please help me prove the wts wrong
by gringojj inmy wife was born in the jw religion but was never baptised.
she is currently studying and is on the road to baptism.
i am an atheist, and i have little comprehension of the bible.
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Thanks guys, my question is where can i find a route to take as far as what part i argue with them that they will have no answer. I think a good line of questioning is the false prophet thing. We know they said they were prophets. But not inspired. So are the prophets or not? the bible didnt say beware flase inspired prophets. Either they are prophets or they arent. If they say they r, then they certainly arent true prophets. If they say they arent, they are lyingbecause we know they said they did. Do you think something like this would work?>
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Please help me prove the wts wrong
by gringojj inmy wife was born in the jw religion but was never baptised.
she is currently studying and is on the road to baptism.
i am an atheist, and i have little comprehension of the bible.
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gringojj
Hi Rado, I would appreciate your help with something. My wife was born in the JW religion but was never baptised. She is currently studying and is on the road to baptism. I am an atheist, and I have little comprehension of the bible. A few brothers came by a few weeks ago. I have always remained quiet about the issue until they came. They flat out told me that there was no way I could be a moral person if I was'nt a member of their organization. The final straw was when one of them told me that if I was alone with a beautiful naked woman and there was no one around I would cheat on my wife. Her study has called me a close associate of satan. I cannot keep quiet anymore. It has become clear to me they are a cult, there doctrines make them dangerous, and I will not let me children grow up exposed to thier teachings. I need to prove that they are wrong, to them, in front of my wife. I have spent a few weeks now reading the bible(not the nwt, only for reference) and have used some websites for guidance on key problems. My question is, what is the best way to prove this? I have found so much evidence in the past few weeks its overwhelming. The evidence keeps piling up, and I have a hard time keepng track of it all. Any suggestions on key points to work on? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.