Posts by luna2

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Sympahty for Circuit and District Overeer's Poor Wives

by frankiespeakin in

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i would like this thread to express sympathy for these poor women, that because of being duped by a typical "end of the world cult", have given up a stable enviroment, suffer god know what as they endure listening to the same booring talk for 6 months, away from friends and family, no home to decorate, under constant scrutiny from the other sisters, etc.... i wouldn't like this thread to degenerate into what bad things these poor victims of an "end of the world cult" have done, but more toward sympathy, to help especially the younger ones who may be reading jwd, and need the courage to do something to get out of this predicament, before they waste thier whole life away slaving for the ungratefull wt organization.. they could use some help here and understanding as well.

luna2

I guess I always looked at it from my point of view. I need privacy and solitude. I also hate going out to eat if I have to do it. I lived with my mother for a couple of months when we were getting ready to move out east together (we were waiting for her house to sell) and she wanted to go out to breakfast every peckin' morning. The boys and I got so we never wanted to see another restaurant. Sure the CO couple gets free meals, but they don't have a lot of choice of who they eat with. While it's nice that they get asked over for home cooked meals too, isn't that pretty much a crap shoot as to how good it's going to be?

They choose the life, sure, but looking at it from the outside, it seems less than desirable. I'd hate to always be on display, having people judge me, my manner, my clothes, how I work out in service. If there was a hell...for me, that would be it. I wonder how many come to hate it over time.

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Sympahty for Circuit and District Overeer's Poor Wives

by frankiespeakin in

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i would like this thread to express sympathy for these poor women, that because of being duped by a typical "end of the world cult", have given up a stable enviroment, suffer god know what as they endure listening to the same booring talk for 6 months, away from friends and family, no home to decorate, under constant scrutiny from the other sisters, etc.... i wouldn't like this thread to degenerate into what bad things these poor victims of an "end of the world cult" have done, but more toward sympathy, to help especially the younger ones who may be reading jwd, and need the courage to do something to get out of this predicament, before they waste thier whole life away slaving for the ungratefull wt organization.. they could use some help here and understanding as well.

luna2

I always felt sorry for them. I know that I would have been a basket case after a couple of weeks living the way they had to. I remember when they took away their nice caravans and made them stay with the "friends" on their visits around the Circuit. The FDS should have had their stupid asses kicked for that one. It's hard enough to have to be social and spend just about every waking hour with a different group of dubs every week, and then to have their one refuge of privacy stripped from them? Ugh.

I remember one sister who had a bad back (she eventually had surgery), she had specific needs in a mattress and it would have been so much better if she could have had her own bed in her own little RV to sleep in at night, but instead she had to suffer through different beds and different accomodations on a weekly basis.

I know that guest arrangement didn't last all that long, at least in northern IL. Seemed like about a year later we were all contributing towards building a permanent apartment for the CO at a KH with a central location in the district so that they could commute back and forth when visiting most congregations.

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The 11 top men - who are they?

by estrelasb in

the big question is exactly who are these 11 men running and controlling the watchtower in brooklyn?

as ever suspicious.

do they have names or are they protected???

luna2

Sounds like a cool idea for a thread, chrissy. I don't know that guy you just named, though, so I'll have to look him up when I get home.

I can pretty much guarantee that the top 11 (60 to 90 year old) GB dudes would not be hot at all....not that I've met any of them or anything. LOL

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Took a huge step today

by tyler m in

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i've been gone from the "truth" for 9 years this month.

i have very little contact with my witness family.

every year around this time i get a letter from my grandparents.

luna2

Way to Go! Good for you, tyler!

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NEW JW book arrived in mail...

by crazyblondeb in

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i don't know want topic this should fall under, don't really care right now.

i've been pissed off most of the afternoon.

my jw stepdad, who until last month i have not spoken to in 10 years, sent me a book--"what does the bible really teach?

luna2

You are a bigger person than I crazyblonde! I agree with katiekitten and the all the others who harbor vengeful thoughts...grrrrr. How could a mother do that? How could she know that her kids were being abused and turn aside? I doubt I will ever, ever be able to understand. In my mind a mother who allows that is equally guilty as the actual abuser. UGH!

I'd go ahead and give his wonderful gift away. Maybe let dear old stepdad know you gave it to apostates to play with.

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dropped wife off at convention this morn...

by tetrapod.sapien in

i just got back home from dropping my wife off at the convention this morning.

i took the day off of work so i could celebrate the occasion of freedom from mass-delusional-cult-think-programming.

out on the porch, sun shinning, birds chirping, scotch in one hand, demon haunted world in the other.. as i was driving my wife to the convention grounds, she thanked me for all the help i had provided her in getting ready for the convention, and for driving her.

luna2

I hope your wife listened to you and that your lovely words will remain in her head as she goes through her long day of boring talks aimed at guilting her to death, and trying to deal with all those not so happy nor so very loving "friends". I hope she thinks of the person who really loves her as she eats the lunch you made her. I hope that it all jells someday and she escapes the dreary JW world and joins you in the sun.

What a perfect song to come on as you were pulling away from all those poor people making their way into a dim, windowless convention facility to be force fed repression and darkness. I'm sitting here with a smile on my face and Here Comes The Sun playing in my mind.

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The "Teachers" of The "Truth"

by minimus in

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from what i can see, there are no real teachers left in the organization.

all that's around are manuscript reading speakers that "sound down" whatever crap the organization "unitedly" espouses.

the meetings are dull and boring.....yesterday, i had to bring some medicine to my mother and when i came into her apartment, she was listening to the service meeting via telephone.

luna2

I don't miss the meetings one little tiny bit. I used to somewhat enjoy going to the afternoon bookstudy at the KH...lots of older ones there and an older brother conducted it...It was pretty lively and not the usual reading the answer back straight from the book. Of course they soon took me out of the group I enjoyed and stuck me in a nighttime study in Elder Blowhard's tiny, hot livingroom, so bookstudy came to suck just as much as the other meetings. I remember we were working on the Daniel Book. It was horrible. Nobody understood much of anything and I just sat there in a heat-induced stupor thinking what a bunch of nonsense it all sounded like.

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Does being a JW make a person physically sick?

by Gill in

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definitely mentally and more than likely physically.. i have read on a few posts and freeminds about an increase of mental illness amoungst jws of between 2 and 40 % and it seems understandable considering the amount of stress being in the borg puts on people.. but what about physically?.

what are your experiences since leaving the borg?.

do you feel well and fitter than ever before?.

luna2

You know, Loubelle, your comment about the "sick" building brought something to mind. I'm thinking that many KH's are sick buildings. I know that our quick build KH had a pretty bad mold problem in the bathrooms due to hurried/shoddy work. Can't be very healthy to breath that in for hours at a time.

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Does being a JW make a person physically sick?

by Gill in

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definitely mentally and more than likely physically.. i have read on a few posts and freeminds about an increase of mental illness amoungst jws of between 2 and 40 % and it seems understandable considering the amount of stress being in the borg puts on people.. but what about physically?.

what are your experiences since leaving the borg?.

do you feel well and fitter than ever before?.

luna2

There's definitly something in what you say, Gill. I can't tell you the number of women (prolly men too, but I wasn't as familiar with "the brothers" health problems) at the KH who had chronic illnesses or suffered from depression.

Maybe that's why we somtimes were admonished from the platform that we'd should crawl to the KH on our hands and knees rather than miss a meeting...they had to know that the stress of being a JW was making people sick and they didn't want them to have an "out".

A popular condition at my initial KH was sensativity to perfumes...after one CO's wife introduced it to the congregation. Such a lovely problem. Any hint of scent and you could be incapacitated with a dreadful headache...there was at least one sister who could barely go out in public ("So sorry, Brother Elder, but I just can't go out in field service!") because she was so afflicted with this. Funny how she never had that problem before the CO's visit. I don't think she ever recovered enough to make more than the occassional meeting and the Memorial.

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Is there a link between WTS and Freemasonary?

by Podiatrist in

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i've tried to google it and got some strange site talking about it.

http://newsletters.cephasministry.com/jwmasons1.99.html.

but i don't know enough about it to see what's true and what's bull .... any takers??

luna2

My grandfather was a mason as is one of our employees at the store. Neither seemed/seem to have any trouble talking about being a member. There's certain special, super duper secret stuff that doesn't get discussed with non-members, (why do I keep picturing Fred Flintstone in a buffalo hat?), but there's a certain pride they have in belonging to the organization. Can't imagine Russell not admitting it if he was one....not that I know a great deal about the subject.