yup it's true... i went to a rap/hip hop concert, "nelly".... took my daughter (12) and one of my sons (14)... i must admit that dude is ripped and good lookin.
i swear i couldn't understand one word they said... after 3 beers it was all good..... now i know where all the cute chicks are... holy hell!
they all dance like strippers... even the 10 year olds (very gross).... glad to say this didn't hold a candle to motley crue, u2, green day or even maroon5....(last week) and seeing the crue again in august at red rocks!
I'm not a Nelly fan at all. Don't like the lyrics of some of the stuff I have listened to. Of course, I've never taken to rap/hip hop much. I give you credit for being able to take the noise for a whole evening. LOL
Maroon5 I love listening too. Visually they aren't terribly exciting, but their music is wonderful.
check this out:.
"sure, it's total bullshit," jurgenson added.
"but that's fictionology.
Sounds like just my cup of tea....as long as I don't have to go to meetings or sell magazines.
a nice guy named robert de vrije has put a link to his site - http://websitemaker.kennisnet.nl/jehoshuafellowship/index.htm - over at thewatchtower.org.
i can't read dutch so the site is useless to me except for the fact that i am drawn to this wondrful mock-up!.
i don't know why clint eastwood is there or what the significance of the gunslinging girlie is but i love it!.
I do believe that's Joan Blondell.
I knew of a couple of families that didn't allow their daughters to use make-up (girls in their late teens and early 20's)...and in one (PO's) family, the girls not only didn't wear make-up, they dressed so modestly they looked very odd...long, long skirts, funny little 50's-looking blouses with Peter Pan collars, concealing sweaters, knee socks and loafers.
Since their mothers did wear some make-up and dressed relatively well, I can only assume the goal was to make their daughters as unattractive as possible so as not to incite any lust...at all.
for years, i refused to think of the witnesses as a "cult".
too harsh and restrictive of a word for me......but there is no denying that we were all in a mind controlling cult.
are you embarrassed or uncomfortable knowing that you belonged to a cult just like the moonies and the branch davidians are/werw a cult?
I feel foolish for believing in the dream and accepting the nightmare that accompanied it.
I feel stupid for not doing some outside research and believing everything that was spoon-fed me because I liked the sister who studied with me so much.
I feel embarrassed for promoting this stuff for almost 20 years, for things I said to my non-JW friends and family, for thinking that I had THE TRUTH and they didnt.
I feel guilty for what I put my children through, especially my oldest who was a people pleaser (like I am) and wouldn't fight for what he wanted.
I feel afraid of getting too close to anyone or anything because I no longer trust my instincts.
although i was considered an exemplary jw, i never really could see it happening.
still don't.
Yes, I believed it. I thought it would end before the year 2000. I knew I shouldn't set dates, blah, blah, blah, but most people like dates. We like dates that involve US! LOL
yep, it's true.
while giving his usual spiel about how true christians should struggle, he says that some of those who have left the truth, say they never felt better.. .
the answer: "they don't have to stuggle anymore.".
My first thought was that this is some sort of pre-emptive strike. Implant this explanation into pliable minds and should they ever be confronted by a 'happy fader' they can simply dismiss them as lazy, no need to dwell on their reasons for happiness ...Nic
I thought the same thing! It's now a case of seeing someone who has left or is fading, (and seems SO much happier now), and "let that be a lesson to you" mindset that those people are not REALLY happy because they're not "pleasing Jehovah" any longer ...Sunspot
Well, shoot! That messes up my whole plan to undermine the faith of the "friends" in this area by demonstrating how much happier I am now.
The FDS has always been good at mangling truth to fit their vision. At first they were quite positive in their assertions that certain things would happen in a specific time frame, then as those dates slid by, they came up with creative "new light" that got more and more vague until now many good JW's can even explain what they stand for and are trying to preach.
Tthe org can't even hide that so many that leave aren't guilt-stricken, sad, and tormented wrecks, but are actually at peace and finding happiness without them, so they have to explain that away too. I feel badly for those that still think they are on the one and only "narrow path". It's so very confusing to be a dub these days.
Really, the only lingering unhappiness I have is regrets for decisions I made based on influence from the Tower.
i recently attended another assembly.. after getting home sunday i reflected and thought the following:.
what did i really learn about christ?
about the bible?.
Aaaaah, racing to the grocery store after work in order to buy lunch stuff for three people (me and my two kids) for two to four days (depending on if it was a District or Circuit deal), making sure you didn't forget anything as you packed the car up at 11:00 the night before the big event, getting up at the crack of dawn to drive up to two hours to get to the venue as early as possible in order to find a "good" seat, sitting through hours of talks guaranteed to make you feel like living slime mold, trying to keep your eyes from drifting shut and embarrassing snoring to commence after lunch, staying late to wipe and scrape and sweep the place clean, dragging home to eat a quick dinner, shower, and fall into bed so you could do it all again the next day. I can't tell you how much I don't miss the assemblies.
here's something that i always wondered as a jw: with the virtually limitless tastes, hopes & desires, as well as cultures, families and backgrounds, did we all have the same idea of paradise in mind?
it used to (bother?
) me that, perhaps the pictures of fruit & animals that i carried around in my service bag, were not paradise for everybody.
I'm sure my version of paradise would change with my moods too. Sometimes you can think something will make you happy, but you really have no clue.
One of the first times I ever worked out in service with JW's other than the sis I studied with (who was a truly amazing person), I was absolutely shocked at their game of "which mansion shall I appropriate for myself in the new system"...I thought it was in extremely bad taste and worried that some of the people we were calling on might hear them discussing it. I can remember thinking then that I could imagine a lot of the happy friends being very shocked and dismayed if the paradise earth Jehovah was talking about didn't match their dreams. I also wondered who'd be manning the electric plants, etc. LOL Such a spoil sport I was.
i remember many witness businesses that would pop up.
usually they would say "i'll just offer it to the friends to get started, then when it takes off i can pioneer".
it was usually one after the other for the same people.
You are right, tsunami, lots of people other than JW's try these things. I guess what is bothersome to me about it is that JW's are taught to stay separate from the greedy world. While I think that many JW's start out with nothing but good intentions because they are looking for a way to support themselves that will allow them more time for the field ministry, their success often hinges on taking advantage of their spiritual brothers and sisters. Not exactly a loving way to behave.
