why do they say jehovah god?- Exactly! I used to ask my jw why they did that. Did they need to differentiate between bob god and jah god?
Posts by carla
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13Geehovah this and Geehovah that.
by Foolednomore insome jw's used geehovah like a worn out sunday dish rag.
and so as those with a trade or talent.
in my hall my family owned an auto repair shop.
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carla
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Geehovah this and Geehovah that.
by Foolednomore insome jw's used geehovah like a worn out sunday dish rag.
and so as those with a trade or talent.
in my hall my family owned an auto repair shop.
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carla
I never understood the whole name thing to begin with. If God is your heavenly Father why would you call him by his name? sounds disrespectful to me. They don't call their earthly parents by their given names do they? (just forget for the moment that jehovah isn't even correct to begin with)
In the same vein I also find some Christians use "so blessed" as a throwaway as well. (by Christians I mean non jw's as I do not consider jw's as Christian)
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Norway Takes Appropriate Action Against Jehovah’s Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 ini hope other countries follow suit.. https://youtu.be/pfw9xzugcms.
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"Are you the plumber?"
by Jourles ini've been debating whether or not to post this story simply because the org knows who i am (post history from pre-'05 will tell you all you need to know), and i'm not sure if they would give my parents shit if they knew what transpired earlier this summer.
but you know what, i don't care what they do, because my mom is dying of stage iv cancer and i feel this needs to be heard by anyone struggling with the loss of contact from their relatives.. for those who are not familiar with my background, i became a small thorn in the side of the wts while i was still in.
i'm not big on being deceived, and for me, the org crossed my personal 'red line' when it came to blood and the child abuse issue.
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carla
How nice Jourles! so glad you all have come to some sort of acceptance of sorts.
Sorry to laugh at her nine lives, I know when my Mom was dying and she worried that it was a burden she said, "you know you can't hurry it or make it happen" nearly broke my heart. I was in no hurry for her to go but in other strange news she did wait until a certain birthday had passed by until she went (we are all non jw) I simply reminded her in her unconscious state that it was so & so's birthday that next day and I don't care if you don't believe me but she waited until the next day because birthdays were always a big deal in our family (don't worry, no beheadings). She wouldn't have wanted her death to be a life long reminder on someone's birthday. You hear stories like that all the time if you are willing to see them.
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Counseling for Ex JW
by Iamallcool ini have been thinking that it would be very nice if the us government would be willing to fund ex jw counseling services all over the united states.
i understand that many counselors do not really understand ex jw issues but we can educate them if we have additional funds, etc…if someone here is willing to write a letter to their local representative about it, that would be great!
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carla
From my understanding it seems that many therapists do not understand high control groups/cults very well whichever flavor they may be. People have complained that they have to educate the therapist before they can get down to getting actual help. It is very frustrating for the client of the therapist to have to pay an hourly fee for educating the therapist.
The therapists often don't understand why the person just didn't leave the group, not understanding shunning or whatever pain the high control/cult inflicts on its members who choose to believe differently. It makes no sense to me that a therapist isn't somewhat educated in this or couldn't spend even a half hour learning about it but apparently many don't.
That very reason of 'why didn't you just leave' is the reason there will never be any special governmental help for specific cults/high control groups. They didn't hold an actual gun to your head just your entire family and social structure. I wonder if a diagnosis of PTSD would be better financially speaking? I am not sure how insurances work regarding mental health issues.
Whenever I (a non & never been jw) would try to discuss why I was so opposed to jw's in general to non jw's they often truly did not believe me when I told them about 'apostates', shunning, how child sexual abuse is handled, blood issue and so on. Once someone said I was the one with the problem and they refused to even look at the official jw site, apostate sites, books or legal documents from actual court cases. They still see jw's as just some quirky group that dresses nice and at least they 'truly live their faith by knocking on peoples doors to tell them about God'.
I know nothing about the therapist link I posted above other than what her website says.
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Counseling for Ex JW
by Iamallcool ini have been thinking that it would be very nice if the us government would be willing to fund ex jw counseling services all over the united states.
i understand that many counselors do not really understand ex jw issues but we can educate them if we have additional funds, etc…if someone here is willing to write a letter to their local representative about it, that would be great!
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carla
See this site, she was a jw and now a therapist and has help for therapists as well
https://bonniezieman.com/?fbclid=IwAR1sBGo7yJXMLTZTzp8xDOzG4SJ8HsMxPgm4AdUSCO6WgEe3CjTD6BDv_G4
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Simon, are you affected by this Canadian trucker convoy?
by greenhornet ini think you live in canada.
this convoy is starting in the usa and soon to be in europe.
just like to know how this is effecting your daily life and like to share with us if it is.
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carla
Unfortunately I see some sort of false flag scenario coming, I know that sounds paranoid. I have seen Canadian Vets shoveling a monument, elderly ladies staying up all night baking muffins, Polish immigrants bringing food and all kinds of nice things people are doing! If some sort of criminal activities do happen I think they will be from the other side and made to look like it is the trucker faction doing it.
Shania Law, ha, I Iike that!
I am in the U. S. and there are many, many videos of just plain nice people and all very law abiding in my opinion, coming across fb it is incredible. I also see that many other countries are planning their own trucker convoys.
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Simon, are you affected by this Canadian trucker convoy?
by greenhornet ini think you live in canada.
this convoy is starting in the usa and soon to be in europe.
just like to know how this is effecting your daily life and like to share with us if it is.
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carla
I saw (Ottawa?) that the police chief is going to arrest anyone giving food or gas to the truckers? Is this so? how can he make a law just like that? how could it be illegal to give food to someone in need?
I see the new site for donations to them is over 5 million now after gofundme tried to rip them off.
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Did You Miss Playing Sports?
by Sea Breeze inhow many of you missed playing sports in school?
the wt was merely trying to keep us from committing suicide.... how loving.take a look at this fear mongering :problems with sports today - g91 8/22 p. 5. .
"people used to argue that sports were of value because they built character.... such arguments sound hollow, even hypocritical.. .
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carla
@Biahi, yes! when I (ubm, never a jw) found out what they taught in a regular meeting regarding sex in general with all age groups & genders I was appalled to say the least. When I talked with others about it (all non jw) we all agreed it was an abuse of sorts or at least like exposing minors to illicit materials. I was outraged, needless to say I never allowed my kids to step foot in a kh for exactly that reason along with a million others.
jw's seem to think the competition part of sports is bad yet they seem to have their own sport or competition going on in my mind. Don't the men always want to get ahead in the org? isn't the goal to become an elder and they compete to reach that coveted goal? don't the women brag about pioneering and how many hours they get in and so forth?
I can't think of a more dismal religion to be in as a child. Some middle eastern ones would be worse I suppose but in the western modern world jw's are right up there.
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Watchtower online religion.
by asp59 inshould we refer watchtower as to a online religion now?
i mean we could discuss if they ever return to kingdom hall's in the future.
if most of them haven't been sold.
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carla
Only if it has as negative connotation as 'televangelist' does in the minds of jw's, in my opinion. Oddly my jw still says the word 'televangelist' with such disdain it is palpable even though that is basically what the jw's have become!