I mentioned this to my jw years ago! in fact I could go on for hours about how the jw's have made Jesus basically a side note. I was too late, he was too far gone by then, sigh.
Posts by carla
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15Are JWs forgetting Jesus altogether?
by KerryKing ina relative sent me yesterday's wt study article 46, how jehovah guarantees his promise of paradise.. it's been a long time since i read one of those articles but what really struck me about this one is that, considering it's discussing a fundamental jw belief, it only mentions jesus twice as an aside, and not at all as the central figure like the bible does.
it actually mentions satan far more in the same article!.
i don't remember this discrepancy from my time in the org 15 years ago.
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Even with recent changes it’s a struggle to get people to attend
by hoser inthe kingdom hall is still empty.
even with amalgamation of 2 congregations.
the elders are handling the microphones and there was only one comment from zoom at the watchtower.
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carla
I don't understand, you guys (ex jw's) here and elsewhere keep talking about how empty the kh's are so I decided to drive by the one my jw goes to a number of months ago and the place was packed! aagh! what gives?
Maybe each vehicle only had one person in it? I dunno, it was pretty depressing to see after all the good reports of empty kh's.
Hope springs eternal I guess.
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My decision.
by MissDaSilva ini’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.
i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.
amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.
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carla
Tednzo, so basically you all just use each other for your own purposes? with friends like that who needs enemies?
Those are not real friends and you are not a real friend to those people because you are just using them so you are not alone and have to find real friends that love you warts and all.
The org only has the power because people like you gave them that power. Years ago when shunning was first implemented people as a whole could have had nothing to do with it. Not give money or go to a kh and see how quick that policy would have changed. But because all jw's care more about the org/society and their own standing than they do God they allow any nonsense handed down by some evil men in NY.
The people on this board (and elsewhere) who have been subjected to shunning and all the other jw nonsense and left because they had the integrity to believe that truth is more important than following men because it is the easier thing to do are the real heroes today.
In most cases they lost everything simply for believing differently.
What would it take for you to say enough? What could the gb ask of you that you wouldn't do? What if shunning wasn't held over your head? Would you have the balls to say no then?
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities (Attributed to Voltaire)
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Lines you would never hear from a Jehovah's Witness
by Ron.W. ina slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.
elder: 'yes.
i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!
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carla
In real life or movie- "I love you forever!"
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Hello
by cantleave ini popped in to read about the beard u-turn, so thought i'd say hello to anyone who remembers me.
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carla
Hey there! Hope all is well with you, always nice when people pop back in to let us know how they are doing.
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Merry Christmas
by jhine inso for those amongst us who celebrate the season .
merry christmas everyone.
.. jan from tam .
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carla
A very Merry Christmas and a happy and healthy New Year to all of you!
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Beards are now allowed - New Light
by Listener inlett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.
https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.
this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..
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carla
Seeing as jah has decided it is ok to have beards now and women in Bethel Spain had pants on can women in US wear pants now?
In a few years this will all be forgotten and jw's will say it is all apostate lies that jw men couldn't have both a beard and 'privileges' at the same time. Or they will laugh it off and say, "yeah, there were some crazy beliefs at one time, we are progressive so we get new light!"
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Were we really meant to live forever?
by Leathercrop inour capacity for adaptation (there's an official term somewhere) is apparently very vast.
meaning that whatever is a novelty always becomes old news and apparently it happens very quickly.
human beings in fact have to put a lot of effort into not discarding valuable things and relationships because of our overwhelming tendency to become incredibly used to it and just plain bored with them.
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carla
Well Sea Breeze I am more on your side of the fence than you know. Many of the likes on your posts were from me in fact. I am not necessarily a traditionalist Christian (if that is even a thing). I know my Redeemer Lives as will I. My God is Love and yes, I am a Trinitarian though some see things differently and the word itself has different meaning to different folks. I do not care for fire & brimstone type preaching and find it spiritually harmful. I still find the jw's and other cults (which can include churches) to be damaging to the soul. They will have much to answer for in my opinion.
I no longer feel it is my job or responsibility to get my jw out of his ungodly cult. It is the job of Christ & the Holy Spirit. I have planted the seed it is now up to God to water it or not I guess. I don't have all the answers and I like it that way. If one truly had the faith of a child they would not need the absolute answer to everything but simply put it at the Lord's feet and know all will be well. I simply don't see God, Jesus & Holy Spirit the way traditionalist necessarily do. God is not some white dude sitting on a throne waiting and watching to see us mess up and throw arrows at us. If God is our Father then how could He? How could I have more compassion than God? I couldn't therefore when I go home in the end I know all will be forgiven, it already has. Christ did that work upon the Cross for me.
That is my answer that I think you can understand from your Christian point of view. My answer to someone who sees spirituality in a non traditional biblical sort of way would be quite different and to be honest I do not think there are too many folks on this board who could wrap their heads around that answer so I am not even going to go there.
You might not see that there could be 2 answers that sound like they would be opposed to each other though they are not opposed at all. I think almost everybody (churches, cults, etc...) put God in a little box when God (who has no gender but simply is God) is so very much bigger than what they think.
As for living forever on Earth? I don't recall a scripture that specifically says that. Why would one want to? Do you not understand how very vast the universe is? Don't you want to see some of that? Maybe we will travel in our soul body? who knows? guess we will all find out at some point or not.
If being dead is dead, not being conscious then none of this matters anyway does it? Now, if we get to go on and continue to learn and live things we cannot even imagine then.... "wow, wow, oh wow" as Steve Jobs said as he was dying.
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Were we really meant to live forever?
by Leathercrop inour capacity for adaptation (there's an official term somewhere) is apparently very vast.
meaning that whatever is a novelty always becomes old news and apparently it happens very quickly.
human beings in fact have to put a lot of effort into not discarding valuable things and relationships because of our overwhelming tendency to become incredibly used to it and just plain bored with them.
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carla
If you believe you are a spiritual being having a human experience you will not fear death at all. I don't. I look forward to what comes next. I realize I am probably one of the few on this board to believe this. My jw cannot wrap his head around my view either. In fact he says I am lying. I am in no hurry at the moment to go nor do I look forward to the actual process of dying but afterwards? I am quite looking forward to that!
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Elder abuser in Sunshine Coast down under (?)
by carla innot sure if this has been posted or not, apologies if it has.
i did a quick search and did not see it.
https://archive.md/5zcdi -a sunshine coast jehovah’s witness figure accused of horrific sex crimes has been remanded in jail for fresh offences which allegedly occurred the same day he attended court.. and https://archive.md/r2o6x -a sunshine coast jehovah’s witness figure who allegedly used his position in the church to sexually assault young men has been arrested by police.
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carla
Not sure if this has been posted or not, apologies if it has. I did a quick search and did not see it.
https://archive.md/5zCdI -A Sunshine Coast Jehovah’s Witness figure accused of horrific sex crimes has been remanded in jail for fresh offences which allegedly occurred the same day he attended court.
and https://archive.md/R2o6x -A Sunshine Coast Jehovah’s Witness figure who allegedly used his position in the church to sexually assault young men has been arrested by police. WARNING: GRAPHIC