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  Paradise/death

  by carla in

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  can someone clear this up?

  in previous threads many of you tell how your family members truly believe that you will be destroyed and not make it into paradise.

  this is repeated over and over, here and on other boards.

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  carla

  Can someone clear this up? In previous threads many of you tell how your family members truly believe that you will be destroyed and not make it into paradise. This is repeated over and over, here and on other boards. Is this in fact doctrine? I know, they give lip service to 'we don't know who will make it', but it seems they all pretty much do believe only jw's in good standing get into paradise. Asking husband a number of times now how that would be paradise, meaning all your family dead (no jw's family or friends) he says he doesn't believe that and they don't teach that. Is it possible he hasn't gottent to that part yet? Is he just lying? wishful thinking? holding out hope we all will join up? WTF? carla
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  JW Basketball Star Dies

  by Kenneson in

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  miguel respress, 18, on the niagara falls high school basketball team, collapsed and died after playing in a game in california.

  he had his mind set on going pro.

  see "funeral service for n.f.

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  carla

  Sorry for the young man's death. What was he doing on a basketball team to begin with? much less thinking of going pro? These days if a child shows talent in a sport (william sisters) are sports now ok? Does each cong decide seperately? Where is the 'unity' in this when some can and some can't? thanks, carla
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  Attn Unbeleiving Mates (ubm's): "I'm a dub! I'm right! Join or who cares!"

  by Check_Your_Premises in

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  a letter to my wife: .

  i just want to say a few things to you.

  i am writing to you since we just don't get to talk enough.

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  carla

  Dear Jankyn,

  While I agree that reasonable people should be able to agree to disagree, that's not how it really works in a jw household. The one who cannot swallow the lies of the wt are left ALONE in a marriage. They are relegated to being an obligation to the jw spouse. Even if the wt tells them they should do this or that, do you really want to be married to someone who only does something because some men in Brooklyn have told them they 'should'?

  The jw has become a part time spouse and parent. And what? The non jw is supposed to be 'available' when the jw's time slot is open? In reality it goes something like this, "ok dear, between work and my meetings and door to door time I have the following opening available to you and the kids" and we are all supposed to be grateful they 'made time' for us?! By the end of the week, in our home, people are so sick of the jw's lack of interest in any of us, by that point it's like - your home? big deal. It comes to the point where the children don't even bother to tell the parent what's going in their life. Why? he won't remember anyway. Yet, they seem to remember what is going on in the childrens life in the hall. How do you think that makes a child feel?

  Sorry Jankyn, almost forgot who I was writing to, you of course know. I was thinking of defd at the same time as well as my spouse.

  My point is that the jw's change relationships. The closeness, the silent language of marriage, intimacy, the list goes on. The jw is willing to give up the relationship in exchange for the 'maybe making it past the big A'. How does anyone compete with eternity? even if it is fantasy doctrine.

  carla
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  Attn Unbeleiving Mates (ubm's): "I'm a dub! I'm right! Join or who cares!"

  by Check_Your_Premises in

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  a letter to my wife: .

  i just want to say a few things to you.

  i am writing to you since we just don't get to talk enough.

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  carla

  I am not aware of any rule like that. It would be a great Idea for the two mates to do research together.

  You mean they would be allowed to research non jw material? Oh please! Are you allowed to? I'm not even talking about C of C here. Even library books with history do not seem to be allowed.

  When you say it is not the org doing these things but individuals, who do you think the org is made up of? Can you even name one leader in Brooklyn today? The men in Brooklyn are your leaders. Because if you are going to say jhvh is your leader then, you must explain all, the what you will want to call 'mistakes'. How could jhvh make a mistake?

  The whole point is the wt does do everything in it's power to destroy marriages and families. And they attempt to use God's name in the process. Disgraceful! Blasphemous!

  I have found people in my situation have the same problem. We ares supposed to 'understand' the wt and it's godless doctrines, yet the jw spouse will not take 5 seconds in trying to understand the non jw beliefs. They simply assume that what the wt tells them about so called 'Christendom' is fact. They never check for themselves. Most non jw spouses you see here have read reams of info on jw's. Do you honestly think a jw would read one book about Christians or whatever? How would they even have time? The wt requires on average about 3000 pages of wt literature reading per year with only about 200 of actual Bible reading per year. Do you think the scales are tipped a bit there?

  just disgusted by this truly Godless organization,

  carla
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 8-7-05 WT Study (Good News)

  by blondie in

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  the best of good news-the good news of god's kingdom.

  our message-the good news of god's kingdom.

  kingdom message.

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  carla

  Thanks to Blondie yet again!

  Hamster,

  What's it to you if she helps aid people who are stuck in this cult, people who are trying to get someone out, etc... If you were a jw, you have a wealth of info the help people like me who's life is being turned upside down by the cult. Please don't discourage others from aiding the hurting.

  thankyou,

  carla
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  Attn Unbeleiving Mates (ubm's): "I'm a dub! I'm right! Join or who cares!"

  by Check_Your_Premises in

  1. jw
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  a letter to my wife: .

  i just want to say a few things to you.

  i am writing to you since we just don't get to talk enough.

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  carla

  defd,

  I've seen the wt stuff on marriage as well. "If all you wives would just become submissive in everything, there would be no problems". That's it in a nutshell. Besides what is said in the wt is not what is said or implied at the hell. When you have an org that is trying to keep people from seeing nonjw's wether that be by keeping them so busy in meetings and such, or by flat out telling them not to see nonjw's how are they supposed to have a relationship with anyone?

  When elders hint that a spouse may be a 'spiritual endangerment', what the hell do you think that means? Here, we can find an excuse for you to leave your spouse and put God's name on it! Lucky you. Then you can feel free to marry a nice dub. If someones spirituality can be so easily 'endangered' what does that tell you about their spirituality to begin with? Think there may be a problem here?

  When a jw is in a situation like this what are the people at the hell doing asking them to parties and such? Just another way to keep them from their family! It is indecent! As an example, we had an employee with a new baby who had problems, we didn't dream of asking him to work alot of overtime and saturdays. Why? His wife and child needed him home. What would the hell tell someone in that situation? Probably to go to more meeting, and out trying to sell more magazines, you will feel so much better.

  Defd, how can you read all the pain caused by the org and not be affected by it? It amazes me. How can you truly justify all you see here? Especially when most of what is handed down from the wt is not biblical at all. Especially the destruction of relationships and families.

  Why are these jw/non jw marriages not allowed to do real research together? I see it all the time. Don't you see it only reinforces the non jw view that the org is trying to hide something from it's members?

  rant over, carla
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  Are JW's Self-righteous?

  by Honesty in

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  2. friends

  a good friend who is a police officer told me last night that he believes a lot of the jw's he has met through the years in his line of work are extremely self-righteous.

  i didn't have much of a reply but it did get me thinking about what he said.

  so, what do you guys think?

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  carla

  In short, yes. Is it possible they act self righteous but inside they are scared shitless? Maybe they didn't do enough today? Maybe I will be destroyed. So they keep acting as if they are above everybody else in hopes that it may be true. So the dub smirk stays on their face as they wipe the dust from their shoes after speaking to you. carla
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  Need help

  by christian in

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  2. bible

  i need your help.. i would like to know what these pictures means for you.. they come from the knowledge book p35 .

  they have been doubled like an old mystic proceed.. http://www.temoinsdejehovah.info/images/connaissance.jpg.

  http://www.temoinsdejehovah.info/images/connaissance2.jpg.

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  carla

  Where are these from? in mirror image? I have a book about the images used in the wt's. In the first picture if you look above the heads, there is a skull and a (?) demonic looking thing with horns. There has been quite a bit about the images from the wt. Which any jw will deny seeing anything anyway. carla
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  Attn Unbeleiving Mates (ubm's): "I'm a dub! I'm right! Join or who cares!"

  by Check_Your_Premises in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a letter to my wife: .

  i just want to say a few things to you.

  i am writing to you since we just don't get to talk enough.

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  carla

  Well, mine just left for a meeting and here I am reading this thread! something wrong with this picture? damn. carla
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  Attn Unbeleiving Mates (ubm's): "I'm a dub! I'm right! Join or who cares!"

  by Check_Your_Premises in

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  2. friends

  a letter to my wife: .

  i just want to say a few things to you.

  i am writing to you since we just don't get to talk enough.

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  carla

  Can I have your letter and just address it to my husband? It would fit exactly!!!!! In womanese, it is touching and meaningful. I've written a few like that myself. Not as eloquent though. What it means in jwese is another story. I wish you well my friend, from another ubm, carla