Posts by carla

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praying for mass destruction and death

by Cognitive_Dissident in

so i was writing a paper the other day, specifically about the skewed world view that i had had as a witness, and i typed the following - .

pain, misery, strife, these were all things that used to prove to me that jehovah's witnesses were correct in their assessment of a dying world which was soon to be liberated/obliterated by the hand of god.

this "liberation" was something that i desperately longed for.

carla

Thanks for your thoughts. It is truly assinine, the idea that God could wipe out everything but yet needs the help of jw's to clean up worldwide destruction. They don't want to think about the reality of actually seeing the horror of rotting, stinking bodies. And to think they were your friends, family, neighbors is too much to visualize.

I'm sure he does hold out some small hope of me joining up. Small it would have to be. Considering the conversations we have already had. I think he can't bring himself to actually say, 'yes, you will be killed and I do pray for the day to come'. Maybe he doesn't put two and two together. (unlikely)

Try and have a discussion and he will bring up some OT script that in my mind has no connection whatsoever to the topic! But, we all know how that goes.

I do think he has a difficult time with many things. Often when he is unable to answer or maybe just can't articulate his thought it is because he knows it is not a Christian attitude and cannot think of the wt canned answer for it. But, he knows the basic understanding of the wt and just KNOWS they are God's org here on earth. So, they must be right even if his own conscience tells him otherwise. Or the ever famous, 'well, that's old, nobody would say something like that now'. Nevermind, it is already in the collective consciousness of the entire body of jw's.

thanks for your thoughts,

carla

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praying for mass destruction and death

by Cognitive_Dissident in

so i was writing a paper the other day, specifically about the skewed world view that i had had as a witness, and i typed the following - .

pain, misery, strife, these were all things that used to prove to me that jehovah's witnesses were correct in their assessment of a dying world which was soon to be liberated/obliterated by the hand of god.

this "liberation" was something that i desperately longed for.

carla

I really appreciate this post. As I cannot understand jw thinking about this subject at all. Husband claims jw's do not believe that everyone who is not jw will be destroyed. "We don't know who will be". But to me this sounds like the view for the 'public'. I know there are things in the literature that certainly do point to, and blatantly say the rest of us will be destroyed. When I ask him what that will be like for him, paradise with no friends or family around? He doesn't really believe we will be destroyed. How is that possible? Does he figure because we are related we get off the hook? He seems unable or unwilling to process the info of the wt where it pertains to his loved ones.

He too relishes in the gloom & doom of the news. Sometimes more than others. I often wonder if we weren't around to stop him from watching gloom & doom shows on tv if he wouldn't watch exclusively those shows.

I have told him how some jw's 'pick out houses' they would like after the big A. He thought that was sick. What do jw's think? God will somehow spare from destruction the houses they are interested in? I've seen the artwork from wt's. There are buildings being destroyed right along with non jw's. ( I particularily like the one that the people look like Will Smith, Dan Akroyd and the rest I can't remember)

He once wrote me how he envisioned 'paradise'. My heart just sunk. It sounds so insane to a non jw you can't imagine!

He says they don't pray for the destruction of the world just for jah's kingdom to come and everything will be made better. You mean AFTER you get to pick up the bones of your family and neighbors? AFTER you watch the birds literally eat out eyeballs and such? No comment. No comment when you ask about how life will really be in cleaning up the mess. On one hand they say God will provide and on the other they will be responsible for cleaning up Armageddon. With God's help of course.

sorry, I'm rambling.

carla

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help,need

by carla in

jw
friends

will be doing a conversation about when jesus supposedly examined the society and 'passed' the test.

what publications do you suggest?

(wt's i mean) studies in scripture?

carla

Wow! thank you everybody! carla

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The Anointed, the Numbers and the GB

by thinker in

have you ever considered the anointed, the number of partakers at the memorial and the governing body together?

if you examine the number of partakers you can clearly see that sometimes the numbers increase.

i asked some jws about this and their reply was, "those are replacements for unfaithful ones".

carla

Makes perfect sense to me! my jw would simply say none of that matters, just leave it all to jah. It doesn't change who jah is or Jesus or the fds. sick.

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Describe your first thoughts upon hearing the 1914 generation 'new light'

by kid-A in

jw
friends

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we all remember where we were and what we were thinking during highly significant events....(e.g.

9-11, jfk, etc)..... if you can recall, what were the first thoughts racing through your mind as you sat at the 1995 d.c. at the infamous 1914 generation change announcement, was it "the final nail in the coffin of your wts beliefs or did you engage in mental gymnastics to try to assimilate the "fresh meat in due season" lol....... i was in such shock at this announcement, i think my mind just blanked out for 10 minutes followed by: "ok, this really is it for me......they have duped us all along", i then immediately started thinking of my 90 year old jw grandmother sitting in the stadium, and what must have been going through her mind......

carla

TD,

Trying to understand the 'third class' you mentioned. Wouldn't that put any jw's who died now in the same boat as those who died previous to 1995? Don't they get to 'come back' at the big A and help out in restoring earth and accepting all the 'new light'? a bit confused and can't afford to not have this right, thanks much, carla

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help,need

by carla in

jw
friends

will be doing a conversation about when jesus supposedly examined the society and 'passed' the test.

what publications do you suggest?

(wt's i mean) studies in scripture?

carla

thanks everybody! And Jaffacake, was there more to your post?

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Did you ever give blood?

by JH in

jw
friends

did you ever give blood, if so, how often and how does it feel?

does it hurt?

carla

It's not a big deal to give blood. Drink plenty of fluids before doing so and after. Jw's accept so many blood products anyway, why don't they give back?

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I heard

by carla in

jw
friends

i heard through the grapevine that at a jw wedding nearby, someone put antiwitness literature around the tables in the kh!

i wonder if richie was in town!

carla

I heard through the grapevine that at a jw wedding nearby, someone put antiwitness literature around the tables in the kh! I wonder if Richie was in town!

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help,need

by carla in

jw
friends

will be doing a conversation about when jesus supposedly examined the society and 'passed' the test.

what publications do you suggest?

(wt's i mean) studies in scripture?

carla

Please help! will be doing a conversation about when Jesus supposedly examined the society and 'passed' the test. What publications do you suggest? (wt's I mean) Studies in Scripture? but there are seven of them, I think. Best source for the early stuff? In 'Concept' book Don Cammeron suggest the Proclaimers book as well. Any advice? much thanks, carla

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What was Jesus implying...........................

by defd in

at john 10:30 jesus said " i and the father are one" what was he implying?

was it a claim to be almighty god?

what is your thoughts and why?

carla

Defd,

Just once I wish a jw could get through their heads that Christians do not say that Jesus is the Father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Would a jw just once in their life do even the slightest research on what Christians really think and believe?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quit being so *&%$ lazy and check out a few Christian sites! Do you even try to understand it from what Christians say rather than what the wt tells you what Christians believe?

carla