Worked for me yesterday. This was up on reddit too so maybe lots of people trying to get the podcast/book affected that page for now? (I have not started to listen to it yet, read the book years ago.)
Posts by carla
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15Crisis of Conscience available for free on Audible
by nicolaou ini'm unclear on how this has been achieved or if permissions have been given.
presumably, audible (part of amazon) have their own procedures to ensure legality, but here it is nonetheless;.
listen to crisis of conscience - raymond franz by crisis of conscience - raymond franz on audible.
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Why Is Watchtower (Supposedly a Family Friendly Christian Publisher) Obsessed with Oral Sex?
by Sea Breeze inif you do a search on the wt website and type in "oral sex", you will get 69 results.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=oral+sex&p=par&r=occ&st=a .
why does the wt.
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carla
As an outsider that is the main reason I never let my kids step foot in a kh! Their obsession with sex and all the other inappropriate topics in front of children made me sick. AND NO, Christian churches do not have these discussions around children. The elders, MS, whoever... should be arrested for exposing children to sexually explicit material and possibly grooming.
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Atlantis- Devastating News
by Newly Enlightened inhttps://youtu.be/k2hwesvuddq?si=7g6pvmqvcfh-cke4.
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"A Jehovah's Witness"
by NotFormer ina very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.
"one of jehovah's witnesses".
it's one of those coded jargon thingies.
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carla
I also remember when my jw first joined up he said it was disrespectful to say 'jw' instead of the full 'jehovah witness' so naturally I called them dubs.
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"A Jehovah's Witness"
by NotFormer ina very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.
"one of jehovah's witnesses".
it's one of those coded jargon thingies.
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carla
Most people I know (all non jw's) say, "a jehovah witness", " a big jw" , "a big jehovah", "jehovah Bob, Tom, Suzy (persons name) ", "the jehovahs" or "a jehovah".
I never correct any of them
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Will Governing Body follow through with New Zealand Royal Commission's recommendation to publicly apologize?
by was a new boy in'following on from an apology from the prime minister, the commission recommends all faith-based leaders offer a public apology, including the pope, the archbishop of canterbury, the president elect of the methodist church, the moderator of the presbyterian church in new zealand and the head of each individual presbyterian support organisation, the general of the salvation army, the overseeing shepherd of gloriavale, and the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.'.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/govt-takes-blame-will-apologise-to-children-abused-and-tortured-in-state-care/ar-bb1qwoyt?ocid=bingnewsverp.
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carla
I think they are famous for saying, "sorry you feel that way", at least in person. It is a non apology apology.
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Sincerity
by Sea Breeze inchristians ask jw's, is sincerity enough to save a person from the murderous reign of the anti-christ during the great tribulation?.
all kidding aside; why do jw's seem to always point out their sincerity when their lies are exposed?
they seem awfully proud of their sincereity.
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carla
I can't think of a good example without giving myself away but my jw would often say it is all about 'motive' and being 'sincere'. They/he might have lied but their motive was good, they might have been false prophets err, said a wrong date but their motive was good and so on. They were sincere, the gb told them.... I have told him time and again that he must make sure of all things, it won't matter a hill of beans if in the end you say, "well, someone told me to believe and do this". You are responsible for yourself. (if you believe in an afterlife that is, if not, carry on, it doesn't matter then what you believe or do)
Diogenesister has it exactly right!
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The SPINOFF: These are the stories the Jehovah’s Witnesses went to court to stop you reading
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/25-07-2024/these-are-the-stories-the-jehovahs-witnesses-went-to-court-to-stop-you-reading?utm_source=spinoff-share-button&utm_medium=spinoff-web-mobile&fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar1yg_xczgpiel3at0lbzv5wu_p05ja_oenwvwplv1myb89dstgpfsrdzsw_aem_rjvb95lxmk1cvmzcvzpzjq.
friday, july 26, 2024toby manhire.
these are the stories the jehovah’s witnesses went to court to stop you reading.
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carla
Thank you Barb!
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Remember the sex talks?
by KerryKing ini remember sitting through public talks where the speaker spent the hour discussing in great detail anal sex, masturbation (of yourself and others), sex during menstruation and so on.
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i was a child, looking back now, i realise that they systematically stripped away our childhood innocence, we knew and heard things no 'worldly' child would have heard.. the child abuse and grooming happened to every single one of us, the feelings of guilt and shame was in all of us even if we didn't actually do anything bad, the mental images caused by these filthy men hung around in our innocent minds till there was no room for that innocence.. it has taken me 44 years to realise that what was done to us, even those of us not physically abused, is a crime.. do they still have talks like that nowadays i wonder?
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carla
Do they still have these talks? This was one of the main reasons my kids were never allowed anywhere near a kh. I think it is a criminal offense to expose children to these things. When I have told non jw's about this they (almost all) say something to the effect of, "someone tries to talk to my kids about this crap I would beat the shit out of them!" then they would say, "really? they really talk about this like in a sermon?"
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After a Jehovah's Witness secretly confronted a foster child, Eunice Spry was jailed for torturing three children; she is now set to be released from prison and re-homed near her victims. UK
by Sol Reform inafter a jehovah's witness secretly confronted a foster child, eunice spry was jailed for torturing three children; she is now set to be released from prison and re-homed near her victims.
uk.
(warning - graphic pictures and story).
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carla
I remember telling my jw some of the horrors of this story, you can guess his response. All apostate lies, made up , blah, blah.... I printed out the news story and he naturally refused to read it.
You can't tell me that one person in the kh didn't have some knowledge of this or suspicions over a 19 year period! They were in protect the org mode, every one of those people share in the guilt. They were more worried about their own skin (not getting df'd) and protecting this rotten insidious cult than protecting innocent children.