My (very simple) thinking is that God's name has been 'lost' - and as there is only one true God, then His name is unnecessary. As YHWH = 'I AM', it appears (to me) not as a name, but as a statement. I also feel that if God wanted His 'name' to be venerated, there would be specific instruction to do so (where in actual fact it is a commandment to not take His name in vain - and, to me, that means trying to include it about 40 times in each prayer and using it willy nilly in common 'conversation' every other word - if you know what I mean). I also think that as God's 'name' is 'YHWH', then 'Jehovah' is a 'man made' god (1270 AD) replacing YHWH. Even as a JW, I always felt uncomfortable uttering 'Jehovah'. PS, just occurred to me (I'm slow, lol) - we pronounce YHWH as 'Yahweh', but as Hebrew is written right to left...are WE reading it backwards...?
MidwichCuckoo
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Does the name Jehovah actually exist in the original Hebrew language?
by Yizuman insource: http://www.familybible.org/articles/messianic/jehovah.htm.
well, then, where did the word jehovah come from?.
thus the artificial name jehovah came into being.. (yahweh, the new encyclopedia britannica, vol.
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Bethel and Prisons using slave labor for profit!
by Witness 007 inbehtel has workers who are paid basically nothing!
a small "re-inbursment" for expenses.
prison is the same...making license plates for $2 dollars an hour....mc donalds resturants are not far behind.
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Boys, boys, boys. I am not disagreeing with you I've already said I know it is VOLUNTARY. I was addressing reniaa's hit and run post of presuming to know the details of other posters' lives and experiences - she has zero idea of what they 'did' and 'didn't' know, etc.
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Bethel and Prisons using slave labor for profit!
by Witness 007 inbehtel has workers who are paid basically nothing!
a small "re-inbursment" for expenses.
prison is the same...making license plates for $2 dollars an hour....mc donalds resturants are not far behind.
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daniel-p hi. I don't know what 'tripping balls' means. As I said, I have no personal experience of bethel, but from experiences I've read and from Ray Franz's experience (he is quoting young men of 19 and 20)I get the impression that although, YES bethelites are volunteers, many aren't really in full possession of what they are 'letting themselves in for' prior to going (a bit like minors not being in possession of all the facts before being Baptised). I imagine some of these 'volunteers' have this 'idealistic' impression of what it is going to be like (and let's be honest, at 19 with no 'Worldly' experience and little education they are 'innocents')...and then they find out differently.
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How many lives have been RUINED by the Organization? Experiences?
by BonaFide ini think that some people deserve to be excommunicated, such as pedophiles.
but what about the tens of thousands of others that have their life wrenched out from under them by being disfellowshipped?.
and what about those that have a family member that died because of not receiving a blood transfusion?
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maybe lol, I was trying to show we do not go into this religion with our eyes closed we go in with full knowledge
You are very, VERY wrong. I'm not even going to bother expanding on that.
what if s leave the witnesses and immediatelygoes on to do all the things the bible condemns doesn't that show they have lost a faith in god more than the Jws?
I have better morals/standards than a lot of JWs I know/have known - including yourself.
When armageddon arrives what if we get a few minutes of realisation before it strikes, what if the fire is reigning from heaven and destroying all including the people around us that have done all the things Gods condemns like adultery, fornication and have rejected the bible, Can they cry foul when the God has given them and the world clear warning?
See above. Leaving a corrupt 'religion' does not equate with leaving God or disregarding Bible principles.
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How many lives have been RUINED by the Organization? Experiences?
by BonaFide ini think that some people deserve to be excommunicated, such as pedophiles.
but what about the tens of thousands of others that have their life wrenched out from under them by being disfellowshipped?.
and what about those that have a family member that died because of not receiving a blood transfusion?
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Very, very poor analogy reniaa, lol...
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Bethel and Prisons using slave labor for profit!
by Witness 007 inbehtel has workers who are paid basically nothing!
a small "re-inbursment" for expenses.
prison is the same...making license plates for $2 dollars an hour....mc donalds resturants are not far behind.
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Hello 77 (I can't call you 'verystupid', lol) - I'm just re-reading CoC, and Ray Franz remarks on how 'bethelites' respond to how long they've served at bethel -
I had never heard one of these young men respond by saying in round figures, 'about a year' or 'about two years', but, 'one and seven',
'two and five', 'three and one' and so forth always giving the year or years and the exact number of months. I could not help but think of the way
men serving a prison sentence often follow a similar practice of marking off time.
reniaa - do you sit at your keyboard all day waiting to post ill-informed and very bitter crap? I can't comment (on bethel) as I have never been, but many here have, and I very much doubt you are one of them. I know a lot of (current) JWs who would be ashamed to call you 'sister'.
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How many lives have been RUINED by the Organization? Experiences?
by BonaFide ini think that some people deserve to be excommunicated, such as pedophiles.
but what about the tens of thousands of others that have their life wrenched out from under them by being disfellowshipped?.
and what about those that have a family member that died because of not receiving a blood transfusion?
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Just wanted to say 'welcome Edington'
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Why doesn't the WT just make a statement of MJ's standing with them?
by purplesofa ini just heard mention on the news of jw's again pertaining to burial etc concerning mj.. i have heard and read more jw stuff in the media since his death than ever in the media.. why not just come out and make a statement where mj stood with the organization?.
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Maybe they're waiting to see if there's any financial gain in it for them? The WT has its price. No point in blowing their chances, lol.
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newbie needs help
by highdose inthis is a first timer posting.
heres my story which im hoping you guys can help me with, even if its just support ( i could sure use some!).
brought up in the truth, i spent 20+ years of my life having trauma after trauma in it.
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Reniaa, you have no right to 'point the finger' at another saying, ''you no longer live the witness life'' - as YOU don't yourself. You have no credibility. Highdose (like any rational individual) recognises the WT for what it is.
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newbie needs help
by highdose inthis is a first timer posting.
heres my story which im hoping you guys can help me with, even if its just support ( i could sure use some!).
brought up in the truth, i spent 20+ years of my life having trauma after trauma in it.
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Welcome Highdose I remember 'Worldly' people being portrayed as totally amoral (and quite scary) compared to JWs - but that's what the Watchtower wants us to believe. From what I understand (and from my personal knowledge) there are more people suffering 'mental illness' amongst JWs than the population at large. JWs do NOT follow the Bible (as you've probably figured out for yourself) but a forever changing list of manmade rules (no wonder JWs suffer mentally). Stick around here, you won't need the drugs anymore! (The Truth will set you free, as they say)