Isaac - midwichcuckoo, that is what her words have conveyed, probably an inadvertant admission on her part
Oh yes, lol
when people would say, "i don't understand your beliefs on dfing," or, "i don't understand your beliefs on the end times calculations," (even after these were explained)....i used to think i'm just smarter than them.. now i realize they comprehended it just fine but were trying to say, "i don't agree with you," in a softer way.when people would say, "i'm too busy to talk to you right now," i thought that was an invitation to return.. now i realize they were trying to say, "please go away and don't come back," in a softer way.
Isaac - midwichcuckoo, that is what her words have conveyed, probably an inadvertant admission on her part
Oh yes, lol
it actually all started a bit stronger when mj died.
he loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and jws.
he was also watching a lot of youtube videos.
A result Cognac
when people would say, "i don't understand your beliefs on dfing," or, "i don't understand your beliefs on the end times calculations," (even after these were explained)....i used to think i'm just smarter than them.. now i realize they comprehended it just fine but were trying to say, "i don't agree with you," in a softer way.when people would say, "i'm too busy to talk to you right now," i thought that was an invitation to return.. now i realize they were trying to say, "please go away and don't come back," in a softer way.
Isaac - maybe reniaa is saying she'd rather 'converse' with ex JWs, as she can learn more and we are more interesting than current JWs (who are, basically, brain dead).
if a new member was married and divorced for reasons other then adultery, then they got remarried.
and later on during their second marriage they became a witness, how would the watchtower think.
about their marital status?
Welcome Whymse - whatever you do/did before becoming a JW is irrelevant. So a second marriage should not be questioned.
I agree with Isaac. The WT has stolen from other religions/beliefs (...with a sprinkling of pyramidology and occult..?), and usurped the God of the Bible with 'Jehovah' - 'borrowed' from the Catholics - and made 'Him' their own.
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Welcome JKWitless
what was the biggest scandals[or incidents] in your own congregations that got you starting to doubt whether the watchtower was what it made itself out to be?.
one the things for me was the attitude of the people in the congregation after i had took some time off meetings and then returned again.i quickly realized there was no unconditional love only conditional love.also when the watchtower had a letter read out from the platform warning us to not watch the bbc panarama documentary on the watchtowers child abuse problems.and everyone just avoided watching it and said that it was "satan"trying to use anything to get us out the "truth".
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I remember that Jace - although I wasn't attending at time I was told (by local JW) that they were prewarned about the programme and 'advised' not to watch it, lol.
occassionally (very) i have met jw's that don't know me and i would like to ask them something to make them think.. any suggestions for quick, simple, thought provoking questions to ask jw's that you may meet?.
i seem to remember 'v' did a youtube question along the lines of,.
''how can you belong to a religion that allows blood fractions to be transfused?''.
Ask them to prove, from the Bible, that the FDS was chosen by Jesus in 1918/9 .
I have asked two Elders,one Mini Serv and one sister this question,they all promised to get back to me, none have.
Blimey Wobble - the amount of times I've heard the ''I DO know, but will need to get back to you'' (obviously, as the answer is never in the Bible, lol - and they don't return, as they DON'T know the answer)
source: http://www.familybible.org/articles/messianic/jehovah.htm.
well, then, where did the word jehovah come from?.
thus the artificial name jehovah came into being.. (yahweh, the new encyclopedia britannica, vol.
My (very simple) thinking is that God's name has been 'lost' - and as there is only one true God, then His name is unnecessary. As YHWH = 'I AM', it appears (to me) not as a name, but as a statement. I also feel that if God wanted His 'name' to be venerated, there would be specific instruction to do so (where in actual fact it is a commandment to not take His name in vain - and, to me, that means trying to include it about 40 times in each prayer and using it willy nilly in common 'conversation' every other word - if you know what I mean). I also think that as God's 'name' is 'YHWH', then 'Jehovah' is a 'man made' god (1270 AD) replacing YHWH. Even as a JW, I always felt uncomfortable uttering 'Jehovah'. PS, just occurred to me (I'm slow, lol) - we pronounce YHWH as 'Yahweh', but as Hebrew is written right to left...are WE reading it backwards...?
behtel has workers who are paid basically nothing!
a small "re-inbursment" for expenses.
prison is the same...making license plates for $2 dollars an hour....mc donalds resturants are not far behind.
Boys, boys, boys. I am not disagreeing with you I've already said I know it is VOLUNTARY. I was addressing reniaa's hit and run post of presuming to know the details of other posters' lives and experiences - she has zero idea of what they 'did' and 'didn't' know, etc.