I think we all desire 'Reality'...the idea of 'eternity' (at least on Earth) is somewhat an adult JW fantasy. How many times have we heard how they'll all be assisting each other to build etc? All the work they are prepared to do? - yet in this life (the real one) they hardly ever help each other or anyone else. It's escapism.
MidwichCuckoo
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How many here desire 'Reality' over the fantasy of eternal life?
by AK - Jeff inme.. wasting time believing in such silliness is like hoping one day to turn into mickey mouse.
why not accept life now, while you have it, and understand that like all others before you, you are going to die too.
you won't wake from that.
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MidwichCuckoo
Actually, they want it both ways. On one hand they're suggesting it's his conscience - and as these crimes were committed before Baptism, then basically they don't really count in WT terms. But, they also have said that he can't hold privileges, so he is being 'penalised' for his pre-Baptism 'sins'. Do they actually know what they're whittering on about..?
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MidwichCuckoo
He doesn't qualify for any extra privileges in the congregation? I bet he has any privilileges he wants.
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I can't help but feel bad about it all.
by MisfitMeL inok so i travelled home last weekend to break the news to my mum about my engagement to a 'wordly' man.. to be honest, i chickened out and instead of confronting her face to face, i decided to write a long letter to her about it.. we have never really got on and she has a knack for getting on my nerves.
she was very emotionally abusive throughout my childhood (and can still be).
i guess she had her reasons although it doesn't excuse the behaviour.. anyway i tried to be as diplomatic as possible.
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MidwichCuckoo
cantleave - am just PMing you
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I would Appreciate your comments
by lancelink inback in september of 08 my mom died, and both of my parents had been jw's since 1978.. in the mid 80's they moved down south to retire.
and she was the type of person who remembered everyones anniversary, if someone got .
sick, or died she would send a card, flowers, to the family or call.. even years after they moved away !.
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MidwichCuckoo
Sadly I think this is 'normal' JW behaviour, because they only feign Love amongst themselves - 'come back and we will pretend we care' - because (pretence at) Love and support is conditional on you being in the KH. I also think this attitude relieves members of any 'charitable' involvement. It sounds like your Mum was a genuine caring lady, Lance.
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New light on blood?
by Mickey mouse inthis is prompted by barbara's new article at freeminds and a message someone sent to my youtube account a month ago.. there are rumours that there will be "new light" this year about blood transfusions.
if this happens, i for one will be speaking up and asking who is accountable for all the lives lost due to the wt's death dealing policy.
this is an opportunity for all those who still have some connections with jws to make people think..
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MidwichCuckoo
They were edging towards a change when they allowed the option of blood fractions. Practically, this could be whole blood (i.e. all the fractions), but JWs can't see it. As one told me (about this change), 'The Bible hasn't changed, but Science has'... I don't understand that, but to be honest, I don't believe they knew what they were talking about either, which is the norm for the majority of JWs (they just seem to repeat any garbled 'excuse' for changes in doctrine). If whole blood is separated and then administered, a JW will see it as allowable blood fractions (even if it's all the fractions) and not whole blood. I mentioned on a (old) thread, that perhaps the WT will 'get around' the blood issue by allowing a transfusion of whole blood IF something is added (eg. saline) which JWs would easily accept as not being whole blood (as it has an addition)
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It was sad looking at all of my congregation members yesterday!
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini went to the meeting yesterday and found it to be a sad experience.
(i've been fading over the years and down to 2 meetings per month).
i looked around and found that there are no new members.just family members and friends.
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MidwichCuckoo
I always thought how dreary and depressing 'Kingdom' songs are compared to 'Christendom's' Hymns, which always seem to be sung with passion in Church. 'Kingdom' songs are by far inferior, but then isn't everything the WT produces..? LongHairedGirl - Yes - I think some JWs have tried to gain converts by offering practical assistance to the vulnerable...just another ploy.. none of what they do is 'spreading the Good News', it's just manipulation and salestalk (Theocratic Ministry School ?)
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You must not eat any "FAT"
by juci32 inif the witnesses follow the old law of "not eating blood" (even though the bible is pertaining to animal blood) then why do they not adhere to the command to avoid fat?
in leviticus 3:17 it states: 'this is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live: you must not eat any fat or any blood.'".
there is fat in almost every meat we eat.
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...a tad off-topic, but why don't JWs insist on Kosher/Halal meat, as it is more inline with WT doctrine here. I would also have thought it would be beneficial for the WT to insist on a gradual change toward vegitarianism, as it seems accepted that in the 'New Order' (wow, that expression ages me) we won't eat meat (as indeed we/animals didn't originally). This would reinforce in members that Armaggedon is close and faithful JWs are being prepared for a new lifestyle.
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Jevovah's Witnesses and mental health
by bubba flavel indoes anyone know if the society has specific policies on the handling of members with mental health problems?.
my grandfather, a brother in good standing since moses developed paranoid schizophrenia in his later years.
he got to the stage where he would knock people over in the street, place his hand on thier head and cast out evil spirits in the name of jehovah.. he was disfellowshiped and not long after he passed away.. this was related to me by a friend years later as i was unaware due to the shunning, i didn't even know he died.
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MidwichCuckoo
Thanks for post Shamus
My own personal observation is that amongst people I know/have known, long-term mental illness is FAR more common amongst JWs than non-JWs. I'd be interested to know if other posters have made similar observations.
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Tattoos/Piercings?
by Think About It ini feel like woody allen in the 1973 movie "the sleeper".
i leave in 1995, wake up 15 yrs later to see what has been going on in the jw religion and find out it is completely different from what i left.
i started a thread about beards, because i wanted to know how the modern day beard and goatee fad went over in the kh's.. now i'm curious about the tattoo, piercings and short or shaved hair look.
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MidwichCuckoo
You've made me think - when I was considering one, I recall asking an elder if it was alright to get one. His response was 'depending on what the tattoo would be'. So, if a (young) sister did get one in an intimate place....would the elders have to look and 'judge' if it is 'appropriate'?