Someone once described the Unification Church as "the WTBTS on Steroids".Lol.
I'll be watching it
this program looks interesting.
uk only.
someone once described the unification church as "the wtbts on steroids".. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/married-to-the-moonies/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1.
Someone once described the Unification Church as "the WTBTS on Steroids".Lol.
I'll be watching it
tomorrow the 22nd i will be 85 years old .
good wishes only please,remember if you say something nasty i will cry.
and my mum told me it is a sin to cry on your birthday .
Many MANY Happy Returns
i just commented on another thread about the 144000 and thought it deserved a thread of it`s own seeing how important their appointment is .. those who are selected to rule with christ jesus in heaven are given immortality.
if you or i were selected to survive armaggedon we would not be given immortality , so obviously they are considered a cut above the rest of humanity.. so my question is ,why doesnt jehovah`s spirit directed organization on earth give these people the respect and dignity that jehovah god is going to bestow on them in the future , while they are yet present on earth , instead of ignoring them , and treating them as a lesser class of person than a pioneer ,ministerial servant, or elder.. and suggesting they may be influenced by prior beleifs or have mental problems doesnt say much for their bible education instruction , after all these are dedicated baptized publishers who are counted as the annointed remnant.. smiddy.
There's 'one' in my former Congregation - he called on me (about 6 years ago) and I broached the subject of the Remnant. He said they all have 'special gifts' - some have the gift of prophesy, some of healing and some of interpretation. His 'gift' (he claimed) was interpretation. I questioned/suggested that he should be assisting the Org in that area - but he responded that his 'ideas' were ahead of the Org's current teachings.
Cedars - I believe that JWs suffer more 'mental illness' than the general population (from what I've read and from knowing too many JWs on long term anti-depressants). I'm wondering if there's a correlation between an increase in JWs with 'mental issues' and an increase in the 'Remnant' numbers? Just a thought.
So, at this growth rate, how long will it be before the 'Remnant' consists of more than 144,000? I can't do the maths, lol
my wife and i got a letter sent to me stating we are being called before a judical hearing to discuss allegations of apostasy!
we haven't gone to the meeting in 5 years.
are the jw's on a witchhunt lately?
I assumed it was the lights ... I usually take them down every spring but this year I said, ah, to hell with it.
Then they can't be deemed 'Christmas Lights', as they would have been taken down by 12th (?) night. I once had two elders on my doorstep a few weeks after Christmas accusing me of celebrating Christmas (the irony was, I didn't celebrate - although I'd stopped going to meetings, I hadn't returned to a 'Worldly' lifestyle - these things take time). Anyhow, it turned out someone from my former Hall had made a complaint against me. It was someone I never mixed with and never saw (so totally fabricated)...
...anyway, the two elders came in, and had a good look around and questioned me. I had been given a Christmas present prior to Christmas which I had left unopened (I just couldn't be bothered to open it frankly), and I showed them and one said 'Oh, you can open it now as 12 days have passed'.
i have been out of the jw organization for some time now and have been fairly active in discussing my adventures in watchtower with those who are interested.
what really surprised me in the first few years after leaving was how little the "world" knew about jw's.
we were taught that we have been warning the unwashed for 100+ years and they resist the message because satan keeps them from grasping this "good news".. in the many discussions i have had with these folks since leaving, it is amazing how little or no understanding about jw's beyond the blood issue and holidays they have.
Well Done Talesin
why the watch tower society is already in decline.
good article, cedars.. http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3236:why-the-watch-tower-society-is-already-in-decline&catid=31:governing-body&itemid=346.
it's also on the front page of freeminds.org.
Smashing article.
This so called religion is a joke when we consider Dogpatch's list of things it doesn't do.
i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.
i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.
maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.
Truman - Just to let you know, you have been in my thoughts the past few days. I can't even begin to comprehend what you are going through.
i just caught this in the july 2012 study watchtower:.
"8 note how the works of the flesh.
breed disunity.
Over the coming years, the Watchtower will probably phase the Bible out as 'apostate' material as it conflicts with the WT (only kidding....or am I?)