The 'New Light' is just plain wrong. Are we to believe that God decides to let his 'Organisation' not only believe crap, but preach it, then once the R&F firmly believe said crap, He then decides to tweak/change it? There isn't really much point in 'believing' anything the Org says, as it's always subject to change, lol.
MidwichCuckoo
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My nine grievances against the Society from BEFORE I had ever visited a single apostate website...
by cedars ini mentioned on a recent thread by irondork that my wife recently showed me a handwritten list of grievances i had against the society from before i had ever visited a single apostate website (apart from wikipedia).
the thread is below:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/226934/1/how-did-you-long-timers-do-it-before-the-internet-ray-franz-books-abundant-information.
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My testimony June 23rd
by mouthy ini have been invited to share it on radio.on healing exjws by agustin astacio.
those who pray,please do it for me those who dont send good vibes,please.
those who dont like me stay in bed.... dont get up.....
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MidwichCuckoo
Knock 'em dead Mouthy! ... (hope we can access via t'internet?)
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I'm getting more and more frustrated . . .
by Flat_Accent inso last friday we had our regular visitor over.
one of the single brothers from my former hall.
we were decent friends when i was still attending meetings, but since my departure we don't have a lot in common.
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It's so frustrating - I think sometimes they actually believe they have studied everything Scientifically relevant by flicking through a back issue of 'Awake!'
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Proof of the 75' incident
by iamwhoiam inok, am i correct in saying that the fds never stated armegedon was coming in 75'?
however, they led everyone to believe it was coming in 75'?.
if the latter question is true, can you provide links to talks or articles that point to this?
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I remember all the hype and anticipation at the time...now those same JWs deny they proclaimed that in 1975. If the 'Society' never promoted it (as they claim) they had a respoonsibility to 'counsel'/correct the thinking and preaching of it in the 1970s. However, I suspect it was a time of financial growth for the WT, so they turned a blind eye then blamed the R&F.
As I've read on here - To JWs the future always remains the same, it's the past that always changes (apologies for poor quoting)
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New Video aka Sparlock- View of Active JW
by XBEHERE inso over the weekend i was in a cargroup for service, yes i still go out but i dont ring doorbells or knock i just go out to keep wife and other elders off my back, anyway the video came up and i said nothing about it but the other 3 people in the car ( a pioneer and 1 elder, 1 publisher) said that it was good.
yes you heard correctly good!
the pioneer even stated that the annimation was good and it is short enough to hold a young childs attention.
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MidwichCuckoo
It also goes to show how they suck the enjoyment out of everything. Good grief, JW kids have naff all to enjoy anyway...to deprive Caleb (JW kids) of the little pleasures of childhood is just evil and pointless.
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New Video aka Sparlock- View of Active JW
by XBEHERE inso over the weekend i was in a cargroup for service, yes i still go out but i dont ring doorbells or knock i just go out to keep wife and other elders off my back, anyway the video came up and i said nothing about it but the other 3 people in the car ( a pioneer and 1 elder, 1 publisher) said that it was good.
yes you heard correctly good!
the pioneer even stated that the annimation was good and it is short enough to hold a young childs attention.
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MidwichCuckoo
''draws a clear picture of what jw's are about and will affect outsiders perceptions".
I often think something will have to 'give'. Will outsiders perceive JWs as a harmful Cult? Are the WT panicking (judging by the crap they are now churning out, they appear to be losing any 'direction'). As other posters have pointed out, d'fing is a last hold, and with young children being born into an internet based World, the WT needs to instil guilt at an early age by planting fear. It's mental abuse. They are deliberately targetting their future victims, because without them I believe this 'religion' would collapse on itself. The WT has thought ahead trying to secure its own future.
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If you never have used the internet, would you have returned to the borg or stay in the organization?
by Iamallcool inif i have never used the internet, i would probably return to the borg by now.
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I went on the Net, found many more people had seen through the 1914 tosh, and then began to discover the rest.
How do the WT (and JWs) regard 1914 now..? Is it phased/phasing out..? I can't see as it serves any real purpose anymore. What is tragic is the amount of lives/livelihoods lost by putting their trust in this lie.
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How did you long-timers do it before the internet / Ray Franz books / abundant information?
by irondork inwith all the tools and information at the disposal of newly awakened ones, it's still no easy task coming to terms with the magnitude of it all.
it still takes a lot of gut-wrenching time and effort to get to the point where you are sure you made the right decision to leave.. .
how did you long-timers (old-timers, respectfully) manage it without crisis of conscience, christian freedom, jwn, jwfacts, freeminds, access to thousands of fellow survivors with stories just like yours?.
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Alarm bells started ringing for me when it was announced from the platform that we were to hand in any books written by Russell or Rutherford to be destroyed on a bonfire as the teachings were out of date and therefore misleading and could lead to stumble people
Oh yes, if Russell was resurrected tomorrow he wouldn't be able to join the 'religion' he created.
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If you never have used the internet, would you have returned to the borg or stay in the organization?
by Iamallcool inif i have never used the internet, i would probably return to the borg by now.
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Nope. I left before the internet. However, I still felt guilt. Now I don't because of the internet. Of information I accidentally stumbled upon whilst searching for something entirely unrelated (doesn't God move in mysterious ways? lol). I was gobsmacked when I read about the WT's association with the UN (selling their collective soul for a library card, lol). Now I'm totally guilt free. Edited to add - The internet just reinforced why I left.
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How did you long-timers do it before the internet / Ray Franz books / abundant information?
by irondork inwith all the tools and information at the disposal of newly awakened ones, it's still no easy task coming to terms with the magnitude of it all.
it still takes a lot of gut-wrenching time and effort to get to the point where you are sure you made the right decision to leave.. .
how did you long-timers (old-timers, respectfully) manage it without crisis of conscience, christian freedom, jwn, jwfacts, freeminds, access to thousands of fellow survivors with stories just like yours?.
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Morning Phizzy
In the end though, the final nail in the coffin was realising that 1914 was simply not in the Bible, and no Elder being prepared to come and defend the doctrine to me.
Blimey, the amount of times I've asked to have that explained to me. JWs actually believe they KNOW the maths but have forgotten it, lol. ''I'll get back to you'' (they never do). You would think that as it was/is a MAJOR doctrine they'd know it inside out.