Posts by MidwichCuckoo

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Bethel and Prisons using slave labor for profit!

by Witness 007 in

behtel has workers who are paid basically nothing!

a small "re-inbursment" for expenses.

prison is the same...making license plates for $2 dollars an hour....mc donalds resturants are not far behind.

MidwichCuckoo

Hello 77 (I can't call you 'verystupid', lol) - I'm just re-reading CoC, and Ray Franz remarks on how 'bethelites' respond to how long they've served at bethel -

I had never heard one of these young men respond by saying in round figures, 'about a year' or 'about two years', but, 'one and seven',

'two and five', 'three and one' and so forth always giving the year or years and the exact number of months. I could not help but think of the way

men serving a prison sentence often follow a similar practice of marking off time.

reniaa - do you sit at your keyboard all day waiting to post ill-informed and very bitter crap? I can't comment (on bethel) as I have never been, but many here have, and I very much doubt you are one of them. I know a lot of (current) JWs who would be ashamed to call you 'sister'.

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How many lives have been RUINED by the Organization? Experiences?

by BonaFide in

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i think that some people deserve to be excommunicated, such as pedophiles.

but what about the tens of thousands of others that have their life wrenched out from under them by being disfellowshipped?.

and what about those that have a family member that died because of not receiving a blood transfusion?

MidwichCuckoo

Just wanted to say 'welcome Edington'

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Why doesn't the WT just make a statement of MJ's standing with them?

by purplesofa in

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i just heard mention on the news of jw's again pertaining to burial etc concerning mj.. i have heard and read more jw stuff in the media since his death than ever in the media.. why not just come out and make a statement where mj stood with the organization?.

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purps.

MidwichCuckoo

Maybe they're waiting to see if there's any financial gain in it for them? The WT has its price. No point in blowing their chances, lol.

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newbie needs help

by highdose in

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this is a first timer posting.

heres my story which im hoping you guys can help me with, even if its just support ( i could sure use some!).

brought up in the truth, i spent 20+ years of my life having trauma after trauma in it.

MidwichCuckoo

Reniaa, you have no right to 'point the finger' at another saying, ''you no longer live the witness life'' - as YOU don't yourself. You have no credibility. Highdose (like any rational individual) recognises the WT for what it is.

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newbie needs help

by highdose in

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this is a first timer posting.

heres my story which im hoping you guys can help me with, even if its just support ( i could sure use some!).

brought up in the truth, i spent 20+ years of my life having trauma after trauma in it.

MidwichCuckoo

Welcome Highdose I remember 'Worldly' people being portrayed as totally amoral (and quite scary) compared to JWs - but that's what the Watchtower wants us to believe. From what I understand (and from my personal knowledge) there are more people suffering 'mental illness' amongst JWs than the population at large. JWs do NOT follow the Bible (as you've probably figured out for yourself) but a forever changing list of manmade rules (no wonder JWs suffer mentally). Stick around here, you won't need the drugs anymore! (The Truth will set you free, as they say)

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"Our dear Watchtower .... our precious magazine..."

by drwtsn32 in

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i received this vomit-inducing email from a jw:.

i had the tonight show w/ conan o'brien playing in the background, at first i was shocked to hear what i heard, yet very happy to see what was being prominently displayed in public view for the entire world to see (as the show is syndicated internationally)!

yup, the study version of our dear watchtower with the words announcing jehovah's kingdom prominently on the front cover.

MidwichCuckoo

Lolol - yep you're right. Dubs wouldn't bat an eyelid at a sketch presenting a Bible, they sadly believe their literature is more important (at least that's the impression I get). I was thinking about this the other day, and I believe that if the Watchtower phased the Bible out completely, the majority of JWs either wouldn't notice or wouldn't care.

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df'd and assemblies.

by ptrehearn152 in

hi newbie here, i have a question that is begining to bug me a little.

i am not a jw or ever will be but my partner was some years ago and quite devout about the religeon then she was df'd for commiting adultry with another man (not me) who was not a jw, she got divored from her jw husband and left behind her 2 boys and went to live with 'the other man', anyway over the years her relationship with her 2 boys began to grow again and now she see's them once every 2 weeks, i should perhaps point out that her ex is a devout jw, she has told me that she would like to at some point go back to the 'hall' and carry on her religeon, i said that i dont have a problem with that but, i wasn't keen on the idea of her walking the streets knocking on doors due to the amount of hatred that some poeple clearly have for jw's and the fact that we now seem to live in a violent world, yes i know that jw's have to do so much 'service work', she has told me that she has not visited a hall since her df so therefore has not repented her sins as it were but on sunday she said that there was an assembly in our local vicinity (it's the annual one) and she would like to go.

i found this a bit odd that someone who had been df'd would be allowed to go to the jw's event of the year so began to wonder if whilst visiting her sons she maybe did visit the hall to somehow show repent with a view to be allowed back into the faith.

MidwichCuckoo

hi midwichcuckoo we are due to be married next month.

As you're living together (unmarried), she won't be able to apply for reinstatement until after your marriage. The Watchtower discourages marrying 'outsiders', and although you may respect her beliefs it is unlikely that she will respect yours (sorry).

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df'd and assemblies.

by ptrehearn152 in

hi newbie here, i have a question that is begining to bug me a little.

i am not a jw or ever will be but my partner was some years ago and quite devout about the religeon then she was df'd for commiting adultry with another man (not me) who was not a jw, she got divored from her jw husband and left behind her 2 boys and went to live with 'the other man', anyway over the years her relationship with her 2 boys began to grow again and now she see's them once every 2 weeks, i should perhaps point out that her ex is a devout jw, she has told me that she would like to at some point go back to the 'hall' and carry on her religeon, i said that i dont have a problem with that but, i wasn't keen on the idea of her walking the streets knocking on doors due to the amount of hatred that some poeple clearly have for jw's and the fact that we now seem to live in a violent world, yes i know that jw's have to do so much 'service work', she has told me that she has not visited a hall since her df so therefore has not repented her sins as it were but on sunday she said that there was an assembly in our local vicinity (it's the annual one) and she would like to go.

i found this a bit odd that someone who had been df'd would be allowed to go to the jw's event of the year so began to wonder if whilst visiting her sons she maybe did visit the hall to somehow show repent with a view to be allowed back into the faith.

MidwichCuckoo

Welcome ptrehearn . Are you married (only you use the word 'partner')?

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hi everybody and my story

by inbetween in

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as mentioned in my very first port here, i will now give my story and some thoughts i have so far.. i ve been lurking here for about a month, before i registered.

well, a few months ago something like that would be unthinkable for me.. i was raised as a jw, and serve currently as an elder in a congregation.

i have family, also jws.

MidwichCuckoo

Welcome inbetween

Pro - encouraging bible reading, going to the source, other religions often do not bother or even not believe anymore in Gods word.

Are you sure that other religions 'often do not bother or even not believe anymore in Gods word' ? Or is that what the WT wants JWs to believe? And does the WT really encourage Bible reading (a recent WT article discourages JWs from studying the Bible alone and 'forbids' them to compare the 'New World Translation' with the original manuscripts. If the NWT is an accurate Bible, it should stand up to scrutiny - yet the WT KNOWS it is one of the worst translations of the Bible), or does it just use the Bible to back up (badly in most cases) WT literature? A JW 'Bible study' is actually a study of a WT publications.

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Regional Identities in the UK - A short guide for Americans

by besty in

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so the uk is divided into 4 separate countries - the big bit called england that has wales on the side and scotland at the top with northern ireland off on its own island.. each country has multiple cultural identities.

broadly speaking (and i generalize) the wealth of england (and the uk generally) is concentrated in london, the 'rust belt' is in the middle namely birmingham and manchester and the north of england tends to be poorer.. scotland - where i'm from - is culturally rich but economically poor.

there is a long-standing argument about how wealthy scotland could have been if it had been able to keep all the north sea oil revenue instead of sending it to london.