http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/140694/10.ashx UK JW scandal
DannyHaszard
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Will This Latest Scandal Finally Prompt You To Leave?
by sweet pea in.
in view of the latest uk child abuse scandal, have any of you lurkers/faders/still ins finally decided to make a clean break and leave openly, for good?
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Were the Dinosuars on Noahs Ark? Watch. 1973 = Yes!!!
by Witness 007 inwatch.
1973 july 15 p.7 "questions from readers.
when did the dinosuars become extinct?".
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How Many Here Got Depressed Once You Realized It Wasn't The "Truth"?
by minimus inwere you extremely saddened or in despair once you realized you'd been duped??
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DannyHaszard
Moment of truth 1992 surreal SEARING ANGUISH & AGONY to have to renouce the lifelong convictions of my heart it was all a blasphemous lie
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Millions of years vs. Thousands according to the Society
by Cindi_67 inanother topic gave me the idea to post this one.
i have always asked myself, why does the society not agree with the amount of time archeologists say dinosaurs and other species roamed the earth?
they agree the earth has existed for maybe billions of years.
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DannyHaszard
Everything discussed above I have pondered over and over for thousands of hours of contemplation as I was born JW 1957 and was also born a science nerd.
what's my contribution now? I don't have a clue what a waste of my time that along with everything else watchtower
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UK- JW MINISTERIAL SERVANT SERIAL RAPIST
by DannyHaszard inman escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
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DannyHaszard
Has serious crime been downgraded in this country? COMMENT Macclesfield Express, United Kingdom - 11 minutes ago
WHEN a 38-year-old Jehovah’s witness admitted exploiting his trusted position as a ministerial servant to abuse dozens of children, some as young as -
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Jehovah's Witnesses Child Abuse Policy--Exposing The Myths
by whereami inour friend thirdwitness has written a new e-book regarding the watchtower's jehovah's witnesses child abuse policy called jehovah's witnesses child abuse policy--exposing the myths.
this guy is persistent.. .
http://thirdwitness.com/childabuse/default.html.
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DannyHaszard
Be advised that 3rd witness is a TOTAL wbts apologist to the core 1914/607/blood,UN... and publicizes that the Watchtower has the best child protection policy of any religion He is as much of a psychopath as XXX XXXXX and because XXX XXXX has some embarassing credibilty issue 3W thinks he can exploit this to swagger and hold court against all anti-watchtower claims 3w say's the pedophile coverup issue is all "apostate rhetoric" by disgruntled EXJW's with nothing better to do than attack the wonderful watchtower http://www.topix.net/forum/who/jehovahs-witnesses/T9E94JHNQ0D8DS6CT read 3rd witness latest propaganda 3rd witness pages below (I have battled with him often he has been on JWD before) this is his blog http://thetruthaboutthetruthaboutthetruth.blo... UN whitewash Research Board // e-Watchman Exposed
Views expressed here are not necessarily the views of the site owner. For information on e-Watchman (eWatchman) see eWatchman-exposed.co.uk.
www.ewatchman-exposed.co.uk/research/ -3w appears to be a disgruntled ewatchman reject?
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Do you think that JW's will ever get rid of the "1914" doctrine?
by booker-t inwith the year 2014 only 7 years away what are jw's leaders going to say if armaggeddon is not here by then?
how many more changes will have to take place in order for them to keep jw's loyal to the wt society?
my mom just celebrated her 78th birthday on sept 9 and she got baptized in 1967 believing armaggeddon was coming in 1975. i just cry when i think of the elderly jw's that gave their whole lives for the wt believing that armaggeddon was around the corner.
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DannyHaszard
I just cry when I think of the elderly JW's that gave their whole lives for the WT believing that Armaggeddon was around the corner.
For 33 years as a 3rd generation born Jehovah's Witness I went door to door with a Bible in my hand and Watchtower society literature.On YOUR door step,convinced in my heart of hearts that unless I recruited you as a Jehovah's Witness that you and your family would all die a horrible ghastly death. This is what the Watchtower sect programmed me to believe. Moreover,this is what I spent all my time,money promoting and this is what all 3 generations of my Haszard clan promoted. This is what the Watchtower sect indoctrinated us to believe. At 5 meetings a week,weekend 'meetings for field service' pep rallies we would be reminded that we were the world's only hope. This is what the Watchtower sect brainwashed us to believe. Our message that we carried door to door that I had been drilled and knew by heart from hundreds of meetings: God's Kingdom by Jesus Christ was established in the year 1914 and this generation (meant to convey the immediacy of the right now in my youthful lifetime) will get to see Armageddon and the paradise . This is what the Watchtower sect trained me to believe. It was all a LIE! For 50 plus years the masthead of the Watchtower,viewed when you opened up to the inside front cover would read as follows:
"This magazine(Watchtower) builds up confidence in the Creators PROMISE of a peaceful and secure "new world" before the generation "that witnessed" the EVENTS OF 1914 passes away"".
By their own admission the Watchtowers has published this dogma in hundreds of millions of pieces of their own literature.
They deleted this false Adventist millerite derived prophecy in 1995 because it had FAILED.
The Watchtower leadership has "purged" hundreds of thousands of followers over the years for failing to uphold the 1914 (Jesus came to power) loyalty oath to this now defunct dogma.
The Bible clearly warns to turn away from false prophets. Staying Alive Until 1975 Danny Haszard story of growing up Jehovah's Witnesses with severe ulcerative colitis in the Watchtower cult http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/DannyHaszard/12361 http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/141232/1.ashxwas there a 1975 scare? -
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WT BLOOD GUILT EXPOSED TO THE WORLD
by DannyHaszard inparents don't get a moral pass.
toronto star, canada - 3. even the discovery that their parents were devout jehovah's witnesses and is there any other kind of watchtower congregant?
raised only faint alarm ... rosie [email protected] the author.
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DannyHaszard
Danny, Please post the following on "blood guilt exposed to world" thread http://www.lawyersweekly.ca/index.php?section=article&articleid=536
Court okays lawsuit against lawyers for alleged ‘deceit’ By Cristin Schmitz
OttawaAlberta’s top court has permitted the father of a Jehovah’s Witness teenager who died of leukemia to sue, on behalf of his daughter’s estate, the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Canada lawyers who he alleges advised her to reject the blood transfusions prescribed by doctors. The estate’s claims for alleged “misrepresentation and deceit”– which are vigorously denied by the two defendant lawyers – venture into terra incognita at the crossroads of lawyers’ religious beliefs and duties and their professional obligations.
The boundaries of freedom of religion are too unclear to warrant striking out” the plaintiff’s claims, the Alberta Court of Appeal wrote in reversing, in part, a decision below in favour of the defendant lawyers and the Watch Tower Society which struck some of the claims. Speaking generally, Justices Peter Martin, Jack Watson and Frans Slatter commented in their per curiam judgment released Aug. 31 that “it is not at all clear to what extent a religious adherent can convince another person to take actions for religious reasons that will cause him or her bodily harm or even death, even if the religious belief is sincerely held. “Assume, as an example, that a religious adherent persuades a third-party diabetic that he or she should stop taking insulin, and that divine intervention will cure him or her. Assume further that the diabetic follows this advice and dies as a result. Can it be said that the estate of the deceased would have no cause of action against the religious adherent? If the religious adherent withheld antibiotics from a sick person, either in favour of a divine healing, or in favour of traditional herbal remedies, is the religious adherent immune from an action if the patient dies? Cases... show the answer to these questions is far from clear.” The suit was commenced by Lawrence Hughes, administrator ad litem of the estate of Bethany Hughes, against Shane Brady and David Gnam of W. Glen Howe and Assocs. in Georgetown, Ont., the firm which does much of Watch Tower Society’s legal work. Hughes, who is divorced from Bethany’s Jehovah’s Witness mother, Arliss, complains of statements he alleges the two defendants made to his 16-year-old daughter. Gnam represented Bethany, and Brady represented her mother, in the unsuccessful appeal of a 2002 court order that made Bethany a temporary ward of the state on the basis that her religiously-motivated refusal of the blood transfusions risked her life and thus demonstrated that she was incapable of exercising independent judgment about her medical care. Gnam told The Lawyers Weekly neither he nor Brady made the alleged misrepresentations to Bethany or her mother. “As a lawyer my role is to take the instructions of the client and represent them in court or represent them in a legal forum, and so my religious beliefs, whatever they might be, whether in agreement with my client’s or opposed to my client’s are irrelevant and so it certainly would not be my responsibility to try to convince my client of my religious beliefs,” he said. “That’s well beyond my role as a lawyer and I think that would be improper conduct.” Gnam called it ”a very worrisome development” that a lawyer’s religious beliefs should be used to attack his professional representation of a client. Under Canadian law judges and lawyers are presumed to be acting as judicial officers in compliance with their professional standards, he said.
“We have never wanted to be in the situation in Canada where we ask the judge: ‘What religion are you?’ Or, for example, do we need to know if a lawyer representing a gay person is gay? Does that impair, or enhance, the ability to represent the person? We just don’t go there.” Gnam suggested religious prejudice lies at the root of the allegations which are proceeding to court. “If you are a Jehovah’s Witness it’s presumed, you are stereotyped to be, putting pressure on people. If I was a Jehovah’s Witness, it’s presumed that I am putting pressure on Bethany because she is a Jehovah’s Witness.” However, Calgary’s Jennifer Pollock, who argued the appeal pro bono as one of several lawyers who have assisted the self-represented Hughes at no charge, said the case raises thorny issues around conflicts of interest, and the extent to which religious freedom encompasses actions taken in “non-religious areas” such as the provision of legal and medical advice. “I would say the veil of religion was lifted by the [appeal] court,” Pollock suggested. “I think that for lawyers they should consider their position and the conflicts that they are placed in these matters. Certainly this [decision] should give lawyers caution.” Bethany died in September of 2002, seven months after being diagnosed with a very aggressive form of cancer, and two months after doctors stopped her court-ordered chemotherapy, which was supported by blood transfusions, because the treatment wasn’t working. By then she had had 80 blood transfusions. With respect to Hughes’s subsequent civil suit, the Court of Appeal overturned, in part, a decision last year by Alberta Queen’s Bench Justice Patricia Rowbotham (who has since been elevated to the appeal court). Justice Rowbotham struck out Hughes’s allegations that the two lawyers, who the appeal court described as Jehovah’s Witness “elders”, engaged in deceit and misrepresentation by telling Bethany that “blood transfusions... would not help cure her cancer and intentionally misstated to Bethany that a chemotherapy/blood transfusion treatment protocol for her leukemia was experimental when in fact it was not.” Justice Rowbotham ruled that the plaintiff’s claims of deceit and misrepresentation should be struck out because “the crux of the statement of claim is that the beliefs of the Jehovah’s Witness regarding blood transfusions are wrong and contrary to scientific knowledge.” The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled definitively that the law does not permit courts to adjudicate on the validity of religious beliefs, she noted. “Mr. Hughes asks this court to interpret the content of a religious precept,” she reasoned. “This request is not justiciable and those portions of the statement of claim which raise those allegations are struck.” But the Court of Appeal ruled last month that Charter jurisprudence makes it clear that the right to freedom of religion “is a very personal and subjective right.” “Freedom of religion does not include any right to impose religious beliefs on third parties” and “is subject to those limitations that are justifiable in a free and democratic society,” the appellate court stipulated. “Whether religious views provide a defence to, or justification for, misrepresentations that cause bodily harm or death should only be decided on a full factual record,” they further held. Alluding to the test for striking pleadings as disclosing no reasonable cause of action, the appeal court concluded that it was “not ‘plain and obvious’ that a sincerely held religious belief would be an answer to a claim where application of the religious doctrine is said to have caused a death.” Hughes, who says his approval of Bethany’s treatment regime led to him being shunned by his wife and other children, as well as being excommunicated and “disfellowshipped” by his Jehovah’s Witness congregation, contends, in essence, that the Watch Tower Society, the two lawyers, Bethany’s minister, as well as a number of doctors and medical centres who treated her after her court-ordered treatment failed, conspired in the wrongful death of his daughter. With respect to Brady and Gnam, he alleges the lawyers were “unable to differentiate their roles” as counsel for his wife and daughter, and as lawyers who act for, and are members of, the Watch Tower Society which condemns blood transfusions. With respect to Bethany’s medical treatment, they were therefore unable to give “objective and reasonable advice” in her best interests, he contends. Gnam adamantly denies that. “Our position has always been I was not Bethany’s minister, never was, never gave her religious advice of any kind, not my role,” said Gnam. “I came into Bethany’s life when she was 16 years of age. She says to me ‘Mr. Gnam, represent me. I don’t want blood transfusions but I want treatment’. And I do the job.’ And further, to make this whole idea preposterous, is that Bethany was not represented by just me, but I am the only [one] that’s sued.” Bethany was also represented, in appeals, by “eminent counsel” David Day and Eugene Meehan, he noted. “I think everybody accepts that neither Mr. Day nor Mr. Meehan are Jehovah’s Witnesses.” The appeal court stressed that the estate’s pleadings do not require any examination of the “truth” of the defendants’ beliefs about blood transfusions since the misrepresentations pleaded are that the lawyers falsely represented that blood transfusions are an experimental treatment, and that such treatment is ineffective. “There is no indication on the record that either of these topics are the subject of any religious belief of the respondents,” said the Court of Appeal. “The record indicates that the respondents are opposed to transfusions as a matter of faith, not because they are experimental or ineffective.” The appeal court also admonished that “the objective validity of the belief of the respondents that blood transfusions are prohibited by scripture is not an issue in this litigation, will not be the subject of discovery or production, and will not be an issue at trial. 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My JW roommate and I were watching a program on cults the other night
by oppgirl63 inthey were talking about how when you are in a cult, you are not allowed to think outside their 'box'.
i didn't say anything and she says "that sounds just like the jw's doesn't it?".
i just smiled and said yes...i was thinking that very thought but wasn't going to say anything.
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DannyHaszard
DTIMES 104 Sat, Sep 15
10:00 PMCult Followers
Topic: why people join cults.Record with TiVo
VCR+: 7134DTIMES 104 Sun, Sep 16
1:00 AMCult Followers
Topic: why people join cults.Record with TiVo
VCR+: 76784DTIMES 104 Sun, Sep 16
5:00 AMCult Followers
Topic: why people join cults.Record with TiVo
VCR+: 453326DTIMES 104 Sun, Sep 16
8:00 AMCult Followers
Topic: why people join cults.
Will be on again Discovery Times channel above Bangor Maine times I recorded and saved watched with my psychologist girlfriend and she was most impressed (she has seen all my cult videos say's this was best of best) -
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Pedophilia Summary
by LennyinBluemont inive read barbaras intro to the pedophile records and thought it might be useful to have a record here on the forum of the most damning and verifiable facts regarding the pedophilia situation.
sort of a summary.
that way we can all have a source to go to and be able to quickly summarize whats criminal about the way the society has used its authority in this matter.