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  why are most people good looking on the 'net

  by rockmehardplace in

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  people always seem to say how beautiful, sexy, hot, or good looking they are when on the internet.

  do you think most people lie or is beauty in the eye of the beholder.

  i for one am not that great looking, but i wouldnt chase me out the bedroom with a stick either..

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  The internet, in some ways, is just like real life.You'll notice people who carry themselves like they're doing you a favor to be in the same room as them, when they're not really all that attractive.Sometimes you'll meet someone who is very attractive, but has self-esteem issues.

  Not to sound sexist, as i believe this usually only works with men, but what a man lacks in looks, he can usually make up for in confidence. If you believe you're a catch and carry yourself like you're attractive and that no one is "out of your league" then you're more likely to fit in with like minded people.

  So yeah, there's a chance that someone who believes they're attractive is actually pretty damn ugly in your opinion, but to them, they're the best thing since slice bread.
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  What is the true nature of the JW position on abortion?

  by JWoods in

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  it just occurs to me that it is a little strange that the jw religion makes such an enormous issue out of blood transfusions, but there seems to be very little editorializing in the publications on the issue of abortion -.

  i know they are against it on principle, but why so little public position?

  maybe because that moral ground is already taken by many fundamentalists, and they just can't stand to not be the one and only voice on the subject?.

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  The majority of christian sects are against abortion, nothing special about that. Blood transfusions? Disfellowshipping people? Biblical mathematics? Now those are subjects that set JDubs apart from your average christian sect, and they use these and other issues to set themselves apart (when in reality, its the same coin, just a different side).

  So there is no real need to speak up about abortion, there is no real grey area (for the jdubs) about it. Their doctrine on blood transfusions changes frequently, so they spend alot of time explaining current beliefs and downplaying the old ones.

  Just my opinion anyway...
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  Never been drunk - have I missed something?

  by Newborn in

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  I drink, but i've never been drunk either.

  I have a fear of losing control or finding out what kind of drunk i am (the cryer, the hugger, the abuser?), so i always drink in moderation.

  Guess its one of the few personality traits I kept when i left the jdubs.
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  Did You Have Any Weirdo JWs In Your Hall?

  by minimus in

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  in the 2 halls i was in, there were a few.

  but the most memorable one was an elderly pioneer who would ask the householder if they wanted to hear about "the truth".

  when they quite naturally said ,"no", he responded with, "if you don't believe in jesus, jesus will turn you into a pig"!.

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  We had quite a few.

  1) Homeless witness woman. Not that i had any hatred towards the homeless, it just seemed so disresepectful when she would come into the kingdom hall lugging her suitcase around. At first all of the witnesses in the congregation were happy to give her rides and meals, but after a few months, they realized that she was just using them as a meal ticket and ignored her.

  2) Disfellowshipped guy. this guy was weird in the sense that he didn't follow the DF norm. Most of the time DF'ed witnesses came in late and left as soon as the meeting ended. Instead, he came to the meetings 10 minutes before it started and left 10 minutes after the meeting ended. he'd then walk around amongst the crowd of witnesses who were speaking to each other and if you didn't know he was DF'ed you might say hi or ask him what his name was to which he'd say "I'm disfellowshipped", in a loud voice. I found it irritating that he wasn't following the 'rules'. Now i think it was hilarious but sad at the same time.
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  We Want You Back

  by Dune in

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  so i'm sitting at my desk at work when my cell phone rings.

  i've been faded for over 3 years now and i'm way beyond the point where i didn't answer my phone and dreaded any knocks on my door.. anyway, i answer and it's an elder from my old congregation.

  he went on about how he was pretty much going down his list of names of inactive/ and was wondering if he and another elder could come by for a visit.

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  Awesome replies.

  The religion provides an entire social construct where a person is initially loved bombed and is made to feel like this is 'home'.

  Knowing what i know now, there is no way i'm going back to the religion, but things happen to people (deaths in the family, terminal illness, etc) which leaves a void that needs to be filled and like it or not, JW's (and most other religions) have very effective methods of filling that void.
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  What if those df'd......could they?

  by angel eyes in

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  i've recently seen that some teaching have changed.

  so my question is, if someone was df'd for instance for divorcing there partner for having gay relations and this was years ago when there wasnt grounds for it, so they were df'd, if now because the understanding has changed, could they appeal and be reinstated with a public apology?.

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  No way.

  I remember a talk where a bethelite said that he knew some brothers that were attempting to institute change in the watchtower. They were disfellowshipped and then a few years later, those changes were instituted. The moral of the story was that Jehovah works at his own pace and if we try to go in front of him we will be punished, even if we're right.
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  The Secret to Not Hating Your Job...

  by daniel-p in

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  ... what is it?.

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  You should look into finding another job. www.indeed.com. Hating everything for 8 hours out of the day spills into other aspects of your life.
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  We Want You Back

  by Dune in

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  so i'm sitting at my desk at work when my cell phone rings.

  i've been faded for over 3 years now and i'm way beyond the point where i didn't answer my phone and dreaded any knocks on my door.. anyway, i answer and it's an elder from my old congregation.

  he went on about how he was pretty much going down his list of names of inactive/ and was wondering if he and another elder could come by for a visit.

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  So i'm sitting at my desk at work when my cell phone rings. I've been faded for over 3 years now and i'm way beyond the point where I didn't answer my phone and dreaded any knocks on my door.

  Anyway, I answer and it's an Elder from my old congregation. He went on about how he was pretty much going down his list of names of inactive/ and was wondering if he and another elder could come by for a visit. He then went on this spiel about how other inactives and disfellowshipped ones were rethinking their lives due to the economic downturn and surely I was being effected by it too. I tell him, that I appreciate him calling me , but i've actually been doing pretty well during this economy (*knock on wood*) and there was no real need for a 'sheperding call' since it wouldn't accomplish anything.

  After a minute or two of idle chit chat about what he's been up to (lost his job and is now a full-time pioneer) , we say our goodbyes and hang up.

  Its interesting, I hope i never reach the point where i'm so down and out that I go back to the religion so I have them for social support.
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  Was There a Fictional Work Helped You Realize the Truth About the (T)ruth?

  by BabaYaga in

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  the pen really can be mightier than the sword, and even fiction often carries much weight and powerful messages.. did you read a book or watch a movie that made you think?

  did an "entertaining" work plant a seed of doubt?.

  the first one i can remember making a definate comparison to the witnesses in my mind was ray bradbury's martian chronicles.

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  1984.

  I read it in the 11th grade and re-read it several times. I didn't notice the similarities then, but looking back its almost scary how similar the JW heirachy is to 'the party.
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  New Star Trek movie a huge hit! Sequel already taking shape, franchise to continue!

  by Witness 007 in

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  with an opening of 74 million this is offically the biggest trek movie ever!

  the record of 30 million star trek "first contact" is broken.

  with roaring ratings the writers are saying all cast members are signed up by contract to a sequel...they are reading trek books to prepare with talk of "kahn" and many former bad guys returning.

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  The movie was awesome. And i think i was in a theatre full of people who were fans of the previous films/tvshows. I hope that the sequel is more of a Dark Knight and less of a Matrix reloaded.