You are not alone Black Ghost welcome to the forum.
Listen, learn and above all live!!
Cassi
i was raised a j.w.
for 20+ years and slid out of the back door in 1998(no-one noticed me slide) and when i went out into the big bad world i found i was completely naive and clueless as i had lived in a tiny shell all my life, for example i had never met a gay person and i believed every non member was evil and out to get me.. has anyone any similar experiences?how did you get the past out of your mind and move on?
do you still feel disadvantaged or do you think you benefited in any way?.
You are not alone Black Ghost welcome to the forum.
Listen, learn and above all live!!
Cassi
someone said this to me today ... .
"love is not a feeling, its an act of will".
i had never thought that through before.
The opposite of love is not hate. The opposite of love is selfishness, as love is selfless.
Cassi
let me preface this by saying that what i'm asking is a legitimate question.
i'm not doubting anyone, or accusing anyone of lying, or being an a-hole (well, no more than usual).
if you have a legitimate response to my question, please post or pm me, but please do not throw rocks or otherwise abuse me because this is an honest question regarding molestation w/in the jw community.. i was an active jw for 25 years and have continued to be associated with my still-jw friends for ten years since.
Considering the fact that I have personally dealt with abuse issues in the JW religion and that of Episcopalian I feel that abuse is considerable in all religious factions. But as stated before it is the way the JWs deal with the child who comes to plead for help from the elders.
They are raped all over again because they are sent back to live with their abusers and forced by the JW elders to remain quite with threats of disfellowshipping or charges of slander if one is to repeat.
To be fair the Episcopalian church when it found out about possible abuse did withhold telling church members that there may be a threat for several months--allowing others to have been possibly abused as well or abuse to continue in some cases.
OTOH they did finally admit something was wrong, set up counciling services, funds, lit a candle which has been burning to this day ( 7 years later ) (in memory of the young lives these men affected) said prayers publically, set up counceling center inside the church and a support group. etc.. over time. All this because of one priest and a baby sitter in the nursery.
I do not see or have I ever heard of a JW church doing this EVER. The JWs deny, deny, deny and force the victim to deny anything every happened.
Cassi
edit to add:
I do not practice the Episcopalian faith. So my comments about them are not because I am a member there.
in another post someone mentioned americans loving micro beers - and i thought about beers i drink and why.
i drink budweiser on occasion because they sponsor events i like.
i drink miller high life on occation just because of the great 'lone man talking' commercials.
Bass Ale
Sapporo
Molson Golden
In that order and all because of taste
Cassi
cosby has harsh words for black community
by don babwin, associated press writer
chicago - bill cosby (news) went off on another tirade against the black community thursday, telling a room full of activists that black children are running around not knowing how to read or write and "going nowhere.
If Bill Cosby had a problem with the Black youth, then let him go to Black youth. If he can't do that for whatever reason, then he needs to keep his comments about others to himself.
I disagree I think that the parent of the youth should be spoken to first. If this is not working then to those leaders who may influence the parent. It's hard enough for most parents to get the right message across to their children let alone an adult they do not know.
I think every culture should have someone who is willing to put themselves on the line to assure the message is heard.
Cassi
i use a cell all the time.
some states want to outlaw the use of these phones while driving....got an opinion on that?
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Driving Under Influence of a Phone By Tom Incantalupo
Staff Writer Copyright © 2003, Newsday, Inc.
July 23, 2003
Talking on a cell phone behind the wheel is more dangerous than driving drunk, researchers from the University of Utah conclude in a new study.
And it makes no difference whether the telephone is hand-held or, as permitted by New York State law, used hands-free, researchers say in a paper presented yesterday by academics at an auto safety conference in Park City, Utah.
The conclusions are based on the performance of 41 test subjects on a driving simulator at the university. Each subject "drove" on a multilane highway, with and without each type of cell phone and with and without a .08 percent alcohol level - at which a driver is legally intoxicated in most states, including New York as of July 1.
"Cell phone conversation draws attention away from the processing of the visual environment," said David Strayer of the university's psychology department, one of the study's three authors. "We found a 50 percent reduction in the processing of visual information when you're driving and talking on a cell phone."
Test subjects were observed as they braked for a slowing car in front of them, then resumed speed. "When drivers were conversing on a cell phone, they were involved in more rear-end collisions ... and took 18 percent longer to return to their initial driving speed than when they were legally drunk," the paper says, adding that there was "equal impairment" with hand-held and hands-free phones.
A study published in 1997 in the New England Journal of Medicine, based on accident data in Toronto, found that the risk of driving and using a cell phone was similar to that when driving drunk and that, in both cases, the risk of a collision was three to six times higher than when a driver was sober and not using a cell phone.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates that driver distraction is a factor in between 20 and 30 percent of the 6 million car crashes each year. It has no estimate for the number involving cell phones but a study by Harvard University, based on mathematical models, estimated 2,600 auto crash deaths a year attributable to them. The safety agency says 17,419 people died last year in alcohol-related crashes.
Spokeswoman Kimberly Kuo of the Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association, a trade group based in Washington, D.C., cites such numbers in disputing the Utah study's conclusion that cell phones are as dangerous as drunk driving. "If you look at the facts and not a simulator, you would not come to that conclusion," she said.
New York is the only state to restrict cell phone use, enacting the hands-free requirement effective Dec. 1, 2001. New York's ban followed earlier laws in Suffolk and Nassau counties.
Suffolk Legis. Jon Cooper (D-Lloyd Harbor), sponsor of the county's law, maintains that, although hands- free use is permitted, the county and state bans have reduced all cell phone use by drivers. "I was convinced and I remain convinced that a ban on hand- held phones is a step in the right direction," he said.Copyright © 2003, Newsday, Inc.
http://www.healingsearch.com/Health%20News/Cell%20Phone%20Driving%20Like%20Being%20Drunk.htm
There are many distractions available while driving, some far greater than talking. Putting on makeup and reading are high on that list.Talking on a cell phone, whether hands-free or not, provides a different kind of distraction from the others Chen cited and from talking with a passenger in one's car. When eating or smoking, we are performing a basic mechanical function that we have been doing since before we were born: getting our hands to our mouths. When listening to the radio, changing a radio station or CD or even talking to a passenger in the car, we can disengage from those behaviors if the demands of driving require it. But talking to someone who is not in the car is different. The person on the other end of the cell phone doesn't see what the driver sees and therefore can't know when it is important to stop talking to let the driver concentrate on driving. Also, the degree of distraction almost certainly varies with the importance or intensity of the conversation. One study several years ago of driver attentiveness while talking on a cell phone used hood-mounted cameras to record driver behavior. It showed that the greatest problem was that drivers dropped their eyes from the road while they concentrated on their conversations! The more engaging the conversation, the more the listener has to concentrate to try to pick up on the choice of words, phrasing and tone of voice -- all cues that are missing that would otherwise be provided by facial expression, body language and the like. The more important the conversation -- an emotional one, an important business call, etc. -- the greater the concentration on the call and distraction from driving.
The Utah scientists conducted their study by having 64 people respond to simulated traffic signals while either talking on a cell phone, listening to the radio or listening to an audio book. The cell phone users missed twice as many signals as the people listening to the radio or audio books, regardless of whether they were using a hand-held phone or a hands-free unit.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3072629/
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i thought we ought to even things up a little... go for it!.
no obscenities please.
No, no, no offence taken at all.
Good, I hate this one dimensial reading as opposed to speaking to you on the phone.
Cassi
i use a cell all the time.
some states want to outlaw the use of these phones while driving....got an opinion on that?
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Suddenly, pulling over and talking to a person, because a law says you can't answer your ringing telephone while driving. People can get into horrible accidents because of this.
Min I have a cell phone if it rings while driving I do not answer it. I have it in the car for emergencies.
If there is a need to speak on the phone I pull into a gas station where I will in turn blow up the gas pumps by speaking on the cell phone because of the signal it emits.
Cassi
i use a cell all the time.
some states want to outlaw the use of these phones while driving....got an opinion on that?
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It doesn't upset me if the pilot is flying a plane and talking too.
Remind me never to drive around you and fly the airlines you have flown. I surly hope you reported the tipsy captain. Seems to me you are a little too liberal with the life of others. You may risk your own but not mine.
I can damn well gurantee if your wife or child was on a plane full of passengers who crashed because the captain was speaking on the phone you would be outraged that your childs life was taken over a phone call that could have waited. I would not be surprised if you did not sue.
Cassi
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i thought we ought to even things up a little... go for it!.
no obscenities please.
The Royal Family, I don't get why you all put up with paying taxes for some pompous windbags who can wave to the public like Miss America and can't do much of anything else, except, that is give fodder for scandal.*sigh* Cassi, we're a monarchy! A monarch has no political agenda, doesn't worry about being voted in or out, and has the power of veto to keep the government from becoming too powerful.Our monarchy last year cost us £38m, that's about 50p per person which is less than 1 dollar per person per year.
How does that compare to the cost of Airforce one alone?
Maybe we should out the Queen and have a Blairforce one!
Englishman.
Woah sorry there Mike, you asked about what I thought was a fault. I did not mean to hit a sore spot. And I did not realize that this was going to turn into American V Brits. If I had thought that then I would have never said a damn thing. About a 100 million a year to support a family of people who just look good seems like a fault to me. I'm not speaking about our own stupid habits but you asked of your own. What is it that they are supposed to accomplish for the British people? Cassi