Does Washington have to shut down every time John Howard pays a visit?
Does John Howard have every nut on the planet out to kill him? Really, obssesive Bush-hatred is an interesting psychological phenomenon worthy of serious study.
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Bush leave Australia and don't come back!
by WT=watchtrouble inlmao sorry but i dislike the evil president.
who does he think he is coming over to oz and expecting us to close down a city, put on hundreds of police and spend millions of dollars for his protection.
thousands of lifes have been lost because of this freak.
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Bush leave Australia and don't come back!
by WT=watchtrouble inlmao sorry but i dislike the evil president.
who does he think he is coming over to oz and expecting us to close down a city, put on hundreds of police and spend millions of dollars for his protection.
thousands of lifes have been lost because of this freak.
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Who does he think he is coming over to Oz and expecting us to close down a city, put on hundreds of police and spend millions of dollars for his protection.
Yeah, I mean, why would Australia want an official visit from the leader of the free world? The nerve of that guy...
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5 members of regional building committee killed in plane crash
by fahrvegnugen intennessee plane crash kills 5 ministers.
group was headed to meeting to discuss building a church.
elizabethton, tenn. - a plane carrying five jehovah's witness ministers crashed in a remote area of eastern tennessee, killing all aboard, officials said.. the crash, which happened around 10:30 a.m. saturday, wasn't discovered until more than eight hours later, when another pilot spotted the wreckage.. authorities had to clear a path sunday to get to the crash site in the cherokee national forest on holston mountain.
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Tennessee plane crash kills 5 ministers
Group was headed to meeting to discuss building a church
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ELIZABETHTON, Tenn. - A plane carrying five Jehovah's Witness ministers crashed in a remote area of eastern Tennessee, killing all aboard, officials said.
The crash, which happened around 10:30 a.m. Saturday, wasn't discovered until more than eight hours later, when another pilot spotted the wreckage.
Authorities had to clear a path Sunday to get to the crash site in the Cherokee National Forest on Holston Mountain. Five bodies were found, said Carter County Sheriff Chris Mathes. One of the ministers was believed to be the pilot, he said.
The single-engine Beech Bonanza crashed after leaving the Elizabethton Municipal Airport, officials said. The aircraft had taken off from Hamblen County and landed in Elizabethton to pick up a passenger. It was destined for Virginia Highlands Airport near Abingdon, Va., about 40 miles from Elizabethton.
Robert Burpitt, an elder with the Woodland Heights congregation of Jehovah's Witness in Kingsport, said the ministers were all from East Tennessee and members of a regional building committee that makes decisions regarding Kingdom Hall building projects. The names of the ministers were not released.
He said the men were on their way to Abingdon Saturday morning to meet with congregation members to discuss building a new church.
"All of the congregations in this region are devastated by this news, and will continue to keep the families in their prayers," he said.
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One Day I got a wonderful postcard from China.......
by AK - Jeff in.... with this image [although not the exact picture].. .
http://www.kinabaloo.com/fcc.html.
so i decided to do a little digital inspection of the place online.
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I don't know if you'd be approached but there was a group of young pioneers from my KH who moved to Beijing under the guise of "teaching English" who were actually there to preach. I heard they were conducting a lot of Bible studies.
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One Day I got a wonderful postcard from China.......
by AK - Jeff in.... with this image [although not the exact picture].. .
http://www.kinabaloo.com/fcc.html.
so i decided to do a little digital inspection of the place online.
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Is the Forbidden City where they have the huge portraits of Mao? My brother and I spent one night in Beijing at the end of a long train-ride through Siberia and Mongolia. We had to leave on a flight first thing in the morning, but we did grab a quick taxi down to Tiananman Square and took some photos with Chairman Mao. Here's one (bro's face blacked out for privacy):
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The Truth From the Bible About the 144,000
by AllTimeJeff ini hope this wont take me too long, as being concise isnt my biggest talent.
a recent thread on the 144,000 made me put a couple of things together about the governing body.
these are the ones that claim to have authority from jehovah, to tell the over 6,00,000 that although we arent masters over anyones faith, these 150 items are absolutely prohibited for you to do.
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Jeff--IP_SEC was being sarcastic...he's a longtime contributor here.
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QFR Regarding How The "Slave" Is "Discreet"
by minimus ini was reading this nonsense at my mom's house yesterday and when i agreed with one of the definitions for "discreet" from the article, i said, "how could anyone think they were ever discreet when they got everything wrong from russell's day until now?
were they discreet when they said because the end is so close you shouldn't get married, have children and make families??
is that "discreet" or just the opposite???
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Leolaia - OK, first of all, I'll grant you 5 bonus points right off the top for your use of the word "proleptically." But seriously, you do make a persuasive argument here--I might even have to change my opinion BTW, what is your background in all this, are you a closet theologian?
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The Diary of an Armageddon Survivor
by reneeisorym inbrother thorn told brother.
i told him i didn't feel well.
i told ed thorn that.
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lol...luv the ending
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Anyone recall the WTS's crazy notions about the literal "heart"?
by fahrvegnugen inback in my dub days, i used to make copies of all the old recorded talks i could get my hands on.
in the process i was surprised to come across several talks in which the "faithful slave" tried to make the case that all the scriptures talking about the "heart" were not figurative, but referred to one's literal heart--the organ itself!
as i recall, they even incorporated some pseudo-scientific quotes as "proof" that the heart could effect your thoughts and motivations.
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Back in my dub days, I used to make copies of all the old recorded talks I could get my hands on. In the process I was surprised to come across several talks in which the "faithful slave" tried to make the case that all the scriptures talking about the "heart" were not figurative, but referred to one's literal heart--the organ itself! As I recall, they even incorporated some pseudo-scientific quotes as "proof" that the heart could effect your thoughts and motivations. At least one of the talks was delivered by a GB member--I may still have it around here somewhere. Anyone else familiar with this nonsense?
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QFR Regarding How The "Slave" Is "Discreet"
by minimus ini was reading this nonsense at my mom's house yesterday and when i agreed with one of the definitions for "discreet" from the article, i said, "how could anyone think they were ever discreet when they got everything wrong from russell's day until now?
were they discreet when they said because the end is so close you shouldn't get married, have children and make families??
is that "discreet" or just the opposite???
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Leolaia - a few thoughts in response. Again I must stress how truly generic most of these phrases are: élthen ho kurios, means simply "the master came," epi pasin tois uparxousin autou katasthsei, "he will appoint over all his property", katesthsen, "he appointed" (katesthsen and katasthsei are the same word, only different tenses--aorist and future respectively). The use of the verb sitometrew, "to measure out grain," in Genesis is intriguing and probably the best argument in favor of this theory, since Luke does use the noun sitometrion, "a measure of grain" in his account.
Obviously, slavery was virtually a universal institution in the ancient world. It's my understanding that every household (oikos) would have a slave (doulos) who had proved his worth and would be appointed (kathisthmi) as house-steward (oikonomos), with responsibility to administer his master's (kurios) estate. These words and terminology are found together throughout Greek literature, thus I honestly don't think they warrant any special conclusion one way or another. My biggest problem with the theory is that there are some large inconsistencies, between the two stories:
Genesis 39:16 LXX it is said that the incident with Potiphar's wife occurred before Joseph's master "came home " ( élthen eis ton oikon autou ), implying at least that he was not there at the house and only later came there. As I already pointed out, by the first century AD this story was commonly read as implying that indeed Potiphar had gone away from the house
If we accept the above, then this would mean that Joseph's master was Potiphar rather than Pharaoh, which means that his master returned before he even began to distribute the "food in due season." This explanation thus makes no sense at all--Potiphar came and found Joseph doing what? and appointed him over what? If we take Pharaoh to be Joseph's master, who appointed him to 'measure out grain in due season,' then we have a closer parallel but are still left with the fact that Pharaoh never went away somewhere else and then came back to check up on him, nor did he further appoint him over additional 'belongings' as a reward after the fact.
In summary, I won't go so far as to say the faithful and discreet slave is definitely not based on the account of Joseph, only that I think the evidence is not really conclusive one way or the other.