Yizuman,
Sorry to hear this sad story. It just shows us how important each day of our lives are.
She was so young! My best to you Yizu!
Take care!
Cathy
just discovered today that a woman named melissa died last week.
she worked at the village pantry c-store next door to the mission where i am staying.. apparently the next door neighbor broke into her house, raped her, tortured her for at least 2-3 hrs, then stabbed her 57 times and then slit her throat.. i was shocked to find this out this afternoon as i was getting ready to wait on the bus (i'm posting now at the radio shack store where i quickly check on my email and take a quick peek at the forum.).
the girl was only 22 years old.. the cops knows who did this and they're looking for him.
Yizuman,
Sorry to hear this sad story. It just shows us how important each day of our lives are.
She was so young! My best to you Yizu!
Take care!
Cathy
my brother died suddenly.
his funeral was in the catholic church.
his 2 jw children and their offspring actually stood in the back of the church, behind a glass wall, and observed the service.
Yes I have. My gram and my father's uncle.
Since they respected my father and his beliefs they had it in the Mosoleum at the cemetary.
There was a Trinitarian priest. They were both Protestant.
The rats were floating around in the rafters and my ex husband was with me pointing it out so I would laugh at it all. Of course I was laughing and the priest looked straight at me during the prayer. I was so ashamed.
Cathy
posted by hope on 12-18-2002 01:43 pm: .
posted by hope on 12-18-2002 04:25 pm: .
posted by hope on 12-18-2002 04:48 pm: .
This is the most pitiful thing I have read in along time. The distortion of unconditional love. The fact that this woman raised this little girl and at 2yrs old she knew the beliefs to be able to voice them.
How many times were we admonished to show love in whatever form the jws state?
The saddest part is that this woman who raised this little child to become the person she is today stays away from her own daughter. To talk to her one last time before she dies and she does not listen to her heart and soul crying out is even sadder. She has already condemned her to death. She has already given up hope of the life that is now occuring and for what? The society tells her so. What kind of love is this?
I know my mom is happy I live far from her. It has made her life easier and I am glad. At least we email about the weather and we actually do tell each other we love you!
I am so sick to my stomach right now and cant stop crying as this whole thing was a little more than I could bear.
Have a good day.
Cathy
eisenhower family background .
both parents were active in the watchtower during most of the eisenhower children's formative years.
toliver) served the class as the bible-study conductor, or "elder" as the group called its leader (1959:236).. .
This was an excellent read!
I thought the double standards were so cute.
Cathy
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that's right folks, and sorry to get the hopes up of some, but, contrary to what you may have supposed by the subject heading, mr. & mrs. cheeses are off to vanuatu for a week of rest and recreation, leaving friday.. coinciding with our recent 28th wedding anniversary and my upcoming 50th birthday, we decided to flit off to a tropical island for a break of the mundane routines of everyday life.. you all be good (or evil, whichever way you want to look at it), and remember - cheeses is watching.
Cheeses,
Alot to celebrate in one week! Happy Anniversary and Happy Birthday!
Have fun and take care.
Hope there will be pictures when you both get back.
I can only dream of tropical islands.
Cathy
*many* ex-jws say that they were robbed of an education due to the wtbts and as a result, they feel that their families and the wt screwed up their life by depriving them of the opportunity to go to college and therefore, earn a high salary at a job they love.
here is a link to the us census which shows that approximately 26% of the us population graduates college.
page 5, towards the bottom, shows the college graduation stats.
Thanks Teenyuk!
Cathy
*many* ex-jws say that they were robbed of an education due to the wtbts and as a result, they feel that their families and the wt screwed up their life by depriving them of the opportunity to go to college and therefore, earn a high salary at a job they love.
here is a link to the us census which shows that approximately 26% of the us population graduates college.
page 5, towards the bottom, shows the college graduation stats.
Teenyuk,
What were the stats for 1975?
Cathy
*many* ex-jws say that they were robbed of an education due to the wtbts and as a result, they feel that their families and the wt screwed up their life by depriving them of the opportunity to go to college and therefore, earn a high salary at a job they love.
here is a link to the us census which shows that approximately 26% of the us population graduates college.
page 5, towards the bottom, shows the college graduation stats.
Teenyuk,
Most in my age bracket new the end was coming. My parents owned their own business. Some of us didn't finish high school so some of your questions are mute points. As explained before we believed when the family wanted to move to serve where the need was great there were no decisions made by the children at that time.
Just finishing high school would have been much better in the job market, at least for me.
I don't blame the GB or my parents blind faith. When all is said and done we are left to pick up the pieces and move on. We all do what we can with what we have. It just would have been nice to have some choices.
Cathy
pork chop and in_between_days seem to think i am the only one on this board who is bitter and feels occasionally violent toward the borg...what do you think?.
i have been called low life scum because i made a comment (after being provoked) about not caring if all jws died of antrax.
honestly, there are days i really feel that way.
Dearest Ravyn,
There is not much say because you are suffering to this day with the past and the projection into the future. I am not in your shoes but if I were I would feel the same bitterness and rage. My heart cries when I read your posts because there is nothing I can do to change your life and give you something more for your future, except be your friend.
I did feel such rage and bitterness and after I wrote about it I moved on. As for me I have been diagnosed with PTSD and disassociative disorder. I seperate myself from all the hurt because if I don't do that I have a hard time dealing with the reality. This was an escape mechanism I have been using since I was four. The day I got hurt at work it became necessary for me to figure out how to deal with everything that has happened in my life and to open the closet to all the emotions that I put away all my life. Just when I think I have gotten through them all a new one comes up and slowly but surely I am working through it all.
It seems like we spend the first thirty years of life trying to please others and the next 30yrs trying to figure out why we were so blind and what our self worth or lack of it and the why's.
Cathy
i'm having a "minimus moment" - .
i've got meat loaf's new cd "couldn't have said it better" playing, and the question occured to me - i'm sure all of us recall some details of their first date - anyone out there brave enough to tell us about their experience?.
(with thanks to minimus for the inspiration).
Gumby,
Are you my ex? Date? Don't you all remember the chaperones? My god, get out of the house without a chaperone, never. I loved service. I could actually have conversations about the bible with cute guys.
My ex would go out in service just to go door to door with me. We would talk and walk for hours and hours.
Viv, you are the woman!
Mary,
That was a kodak moment! Here is my birth certificate! LOL
Cathy