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  OK believers, time to put up or shut up...

  by Gregor in

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  apparently, a large percentage of xjw's who post on this site have embraced some other form of god/jesus belief to replace the wt doctrine.

  most of them fall into the "i accept the lord jesus christ as my personal savior" class.

  they are still extremely attached to the old "forgiveness of sin through the shed blood of jc" line.

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  sir82

  Auldsoul,

  Thank you for your comments. I can accept what you wrote so far, but...

  it is unfair to assume that the Bible is the end-all, be-all storehouse of human knowledge and wisdom gifted to us by God.

  OK, so where else do I find such "wisdom of God"? Who do I trust, and why? Joe Next-Door-Neighbor seems like a really nice guy, but maybe he tortures puppies in his basement. Jane Doe writes a really good book, but 5 years later she recants everything and becomes a serial bank robber.

  Bible itself encourages reliance on the spirit as a teacher

  God has never spoken to me. I have had no mystical, supernatural, unexplainable occurences that "seem to be" the voice of God / holy spirit, trying to get thru to me. I have had no personal revelation from God--I've asked for it, and it doesn't come. I read of others' experiences, others who were in the same position as me but who had some sort of "revelation" or "supernatural experience" or "calling" or whatever, and I think "if that were to happen to me, I'd be a believer too". But it hasn't happened to me, it seems that it has not happened for millions or billions of others. Is God really that picky?
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  COLABORACIÓN

  by nandokano in

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  estimados amigos:.

  como ya os he presentado en un correo anterior, soy el creador de una pagina web cuya direccion es http://www.fcc.org.es os pido a los que podais colaborar con esta pagina con algun articulo, experiencia o cualquir otra cosa relacionada con la watchtower me la hagais llegar y la publicare en la pagina.

  os estare muy agradecido por vuestra ayuda.

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  sir82

  Who can translate this into English?

  In a nutshell:

  He's looking for people who can share an article, experience, or anything else related to the Watchtower, for posting on the website he links to in his post. Those who collaborate with him in this project can help open the eyes of Jehovah's Witnesses in Spain.

  Obviously, he is in Spain, so he's looking for stuff written in Spanish.
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  OK believers, time to put up or shut up...

  by Gregor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  apparently, a large percentage of xjw's who post on this site have embraced some other form of god/jesus belief to replace the wt doctrine.

  most of them fall into the "i accept the lord jesus christ as my personal savior" class.

  they are still extremely attached to the old "forgiveness of sin through the shed blood of jc" line.

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  sir82

  Here's (one of the) problem(s) I have with Christianity....

  The message of the religion, stripped of all extraneous stuff, seems to boil down to God telling people, "worship me in the way I demand, or I will condemn you to an eternity of sheer excruciating unrelenting torment...I'll give you 80 or 90 years, tops, to figure out the right way to worship me...or less, if you meet with untimely death...if you haven't figured it out in that time, or if me-forbid you happen to be born in Darfur or some other missionary-lacking area, I will wrack you with torture for billions of trillions years..."

  The JW message is only slightly less appalling, just replace "trillions of years of torture" with "everlasting annihilation".

  How does a life of 1-99 years of "sin" merit trillions of years of agony in hell? Why create such a system in the first place? If you're God, you can set up your "system" any way you please. Why create unending punishment for a short human lifespan of sin? And make it all hinge on your acceptance of an invisible entity that does not communicate directly with you?

  This is not an attempt to "flame" anyone, I genuinely don't understand this, and don't understand the appeal of a God who offers a deal such as this.
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  The Increasing Degradation of Women in the Watchtower Society.

  by Dogpatch in

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  from towerwatcher:the increasing degradation of women in the watchtower society.

  the lifestyle of a woman as one of jehovah's witnesses is certainly not an easy job.

  it is a well known fact that most of the work that takes place within the watchtower society contributing to its success, is due to the backbone of the watchtower which can be described as the women in the congregation.

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  Fundamentalists aren't really afraid of the West. They're afraid of Western women, and of what life would be like if their women were like that.

  For some reason, that really hit me--very profound, and makes a lot more sense than W's "they hate us because we're free" drivel.
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  Can you be disfellowshipped for eBaying?

  by jwfacts in

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  i have been busy on ebay the last couple of weeks, and am finding it really addictive.

  i know a lot of jws that go crazy using ebay all the time.. i have worked out why ebay is so popular.

  for buyers it combines the shopping addiction many have with the element of buying things on special.. selling on ebay is gambling.

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  sir82

  Only if you touched eBay in an inappropriate manner, thereby committing pornea.

  Obviously, you didn't read my notes from the elder's school!

  If you touch it for more than 30 seconds, it is "uncleanness with greediness", and you will be d-f'ed for loose conduct.

  If you touch it for under 30 seconds, it is mere "uncleanness", and 1 or 2 elders will give you strong counsel, and that will be the end of it.

  Ya gotta keep up with that fast-moving chariot!
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  Check out the BETHEL CABLE TV Channel Lineup

  by What-A-Coincidence in

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  3 cnbc

  6 cnn

  8 hnn

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  21 TBS

  Sweet! They can watch repeats of "Sex and the City"!
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  607

  by Zico in

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  can anyone provide me with any evidence (links to other sites is fine) that jerusalem could not have possibly fallen to the babylonians in 607?

  thanks again for your answers.

  zico

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  sir82

  the demonic secular chronology.

  Those bast#$%s!

  It's not enough that they have to go and bury those dinosaur bones to make'em look 100 million years old, when the Bible clearly states that dinosaurs were created less than 13,000 years ago...now they have to go and forge all those Babylonian business documents, to make it look like there's a 20 year gap.

  Too much time on their hands, I guess.
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  Judah Ben Schroeder (Albert's son) will soon graduate Law School

  by truthseeker in

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  i just found this on e-watchman's forum.... http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=822&st=40.

  judah shroeder was listed as deputy director of public affairs as of 2000 and was heavily involved in helping the organization defend itself .

  against russia and france.

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  sir82

  JB is likely living at Bethel, or at a sympathetic JW's plush apartment, while attending law school, so the "room & board" likely doesn't apply.

  Even so...I wonder what the reaction of the R&F would be if they realized they had forked over well over $100,000 over the years to fund his "worldly" education?

  And...since graduation is such a milestone, wouldn't it be nice if our little online community managed to find out his address, so we could send him our "congratulations", and let him know what a star he's been on the board?
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  I Have the new "Tract"--or at least it's new to me. Found at the Bakery.

  by LDH in

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  does fate rule our lives?.

  or does god hold us responsible?.

  how would you anser those two questions?

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  sir82

  Sounds like something written particularly for Muslims, given that the footnote contains a quotation from the Koran. They have a brochure specifically for Muslims, too.
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  convention kickback? Beaumont, TX

  by blindersoff in

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  20 groups divvy up hotel occupancy taxes by beth gallaspy , the enterprise .

  beaumont - more than 20 different organizations will share in $370,778.98 in hotel occupancy tax money to promote tourism-related events and projects in jefferson county.. .

  click herejefferson county commissioners court approved the distribution of the money monday, following recommendations of the county's tourism commission.

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  sir82

  What was that scripture that they like to quote to us every 5 minutes? "Not using the world to the full"? "No part of the world"? Something like that.

  Apparently, those no longer apply!