Posts by sir82

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Did You Know Any "Genuine"" Old School Anointed?

by Number 6 in

growing up in scotland in the 1970s in scotland the anointed were few and far between, but we had one old dude in our cong who claimed to be one of the anointed.

in the days when it was taken seriously.. i'd be curious how you viewed them.

thing is, he wasn't an elder, or even a ministerial servant, just a plain old publisher.. but he was revered like he had a hotline to jesus.. the other week i was talking to a friend of similar age to me but who hung around the wt a lot longer than i did, and he just commented "oh him... he was a doddery old fool who used to just sit and piss himself.

sir82

a decent, sincere man

A good description of the one "real" anointed guy I remember from when I was young, 40+ years ago.

A while back we had a couple of "new anointed" guys come through for a few months - in their 30's or 40's or so - they were helping rebuild or remodel a house for the elderly father of one of them and so attached themselves to our congregation while they were here.

The first thoughts that came to mind, rather than "decent, sincere", were "something's a tad bit off about these guys." Nothing overt like mumbling at their shoes or wearing 19th century clothes, but just an air of.....weirdness. It's hard to describe. I just felt uneasy around them, and I wasn't the only one.

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venting: My wife is the most dangerous kind of JW

by goingthruthemotions in

i need to vent again here.

because i have no one else to talk with and no one who really understands except for the people here.

my wife is the most dangerous kind of jw.

sir82

Do you think your organisation is perfect?
No
So what’s wrong with it?

That's pretty good, but it just sets up the line "It's run by imperfect men".

And if you press them for specifics, they'll just chirp on about "new light" and "old light" and how the "old light was wrong" and so, ipso facto, the imperfect men back then got it wrong, and maybe there will be "new light" in the future, yadda yadda yadda.

IMHO, a better approach might be "Is there anything the organization could do, or teach, that would convince you that they are not God's chosen ones?"

If they say "no", well, they are hopeless. Move along.

If they say "yes", ask what it is. Odds are the organization has done or is doing something like that already.

E.g., political involvement? UN NGO-DPI membership 1991 - 2001. Child abuse coverup? Too many examples to mention. Hypocrisy / double standards? The elders manual book about how elders can "get away" with past sins that a "regular" JW would pay for. Printing falsehoods? The dozens of out-of-context quotes in the Creation book, Trinity brochure, etc. And so on.

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In 2015 Governing Body announces expansion all around the world...On second thought....Never Mind A Letter From the Governing Body

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

2015 yearbook of jehovah’s witnesses.

a letter from the governing body.

''we also deeply appreciated your “loving labor” in connection with the construction of various theocratic facilities around the world.

sir82

Hail the theocracy

Ever decreasing,

Wondrous contraction

Is now taking place

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Department Store Santa Claus - Do They Still Exist?

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

i remember when stores would advertise that santa claus would be there from 2-4 pm on a saturday or something for several weeks before christmas.

you would see them everywhere.. do they still exist in your area?.

maybe parents finally realized that having a drunk guy with a white beard getting his jollies off with young children on his lap was not a good idea.. just my thoughts.

sir82

He went underground man, yeah, underground....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSH9ryRzHQ4

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Why are they buying names and addresses?

by Lost in the fog in

apparently the jws of coventry, england, have been spending their congregation's money buying names and addresses from the local council.

i wonder what they want them for and is this something that each congregation does?

i'm curious now.

sir82

Back in the olden days the JWs used to have to schlep over to the public library and request the 150 pound "reverse directory" to look up names associated with addresses.

When finished, they climbed into their horse & buggy and then headed over to the local saloon to enjoy a tall glass of sarsaparilla.

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Email from JW relative/elder

by Lynnie in

as much as i enjoy you and pete's company, you also know our understanding of how much we want you to be reunited with jehovah and his people.. .

we did not set the standards for what jehovah says about our associations with those who choose to not serve him.

so we will always be there for you and pete, but it is in your hands as to how we can enjoy your friendship.. .

sir82

Guys....are you still falling for this?

"JTrottigy" is not the JW talk guy.

Sheesh...I thought we settled this months ago.

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A Kingdom Hall which is NOT up for sale! Any ideas what's going on?

by The Fall Guy in

the kilbirnie congregation in scotland was "relocated" in january 2018 - almost 2 years ago - to the nearest kingdom hall a few miles away in irvine.

the reason given by london bethel was that kilbirnie kh was "scheduled for a refurbishment.

" how long does it take to initiate a kh refurbishment, for goodness sake?.

sir82

The transition from "RBC" to "LDC" has increased the bureaucratic bungling sevenfold.

You have to get "permission" from the LDC to do anything more extensive than cleaning a toilet or changing a lightbulb.

It's not surprising that projects continue to sit.

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Washington Post - Front Page Expose on Mormon Church Billions Tax Fraud

by POs Son in

the wapo has a front page expose on the mormon church avoiding taxes on billions of dollars under the cloak of religion.

link here: (need to disable popups).

washington post online.

sir82

I'd bet a plate of doughnuts that the WTS has a similar scandal just waiting in the wings to be exposed....

True they don't collect for "charity", and their members are, as a rule, far less wealthy than the typical Mormon....but there are still 9 or 10-digit sums of money earmarked for "Worldwide Work" that are probably , well, let's just say not going to support Sam & Suzy Missionary in Mudhutville, Angola.

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So the Witnesses still believe in rapture

by eyeslice2 in

according today's watchtower, all the remaining ones of the anointed ones will be in heaven when the great tribulation breaks to join jesus in the battle against evil.

the watchtower was making the point that at that time god's organization will be ran by members of the 'other sheep'.

it didn't say how these remaining ones find themselves in heaven, but presumably they will be taken, i.e.

sir82

Jehovah`s Witnesses / GB ,just do not want to use the same wording where they can avoid it as Christendom does, they have to be different.

Yup.

My personal pet peeve - they for some reason can't bring themselves to use the simple, eloquent, profound word "grace" - why? Because "Christendom" uses it.

Instead they use the awful, clunky, awkward, depressing "undeserved kindness".

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So the Witnesses still believe in rapture

by eyeslice2 in

according today's watchtower, all the remaining ones of the anointed ones will be in heaven when the great tribulation breaks to join jesus in the battle against evil.

the watchtower was making the point that at that time god's organization will be ran by members of the 'other sheep'.

it didn't say how these remaining ones find themselves in heaven, but presumably they will be taken, i.e.

sir82

Therefore, while we do not use the term “rapture” here because of its wrong connotation, the remaining faithful
anointed will be gathered together in an instant of time.

Gotta love the mealy-mouthed weasel-worded walkback on this.

"Yeah, sure, it looks like a rapture, and sounds like a rapture, and smells like a rapture...but we don't use the word 'rapture' ".