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Preaching trip to Minnesota

by NoMoreMeetings in

just returned from minnesota.

i was invited to preach the sermon and take questions during sunday school about how to reach jw's with the simple truth of christ.

a number of mennonites from a local church also were there.

Preaching trip to Minnesota

by NoMoreMeetings in

just returned from minnesota.

i was invited to preach the sermon and take questions during sunday school about how to reach jw's with the simple truth of christ.

a number of mennonites from a local church also were there.

Just returned from Minnesota. I was invited to preach the sermon and take questions during Sunday school about how to reach JW's with the simple truth of Christ. A number of Mennonites from a local church also were there. About 140 were there.

Every time I travel to speak in a church about my leaving JW's and how to reach them with the Gospel, there is a strong reaction. People are surprised to hear of the highly controlled lifestyle and the spiritual blindness. The go away with a better understanding of JW's and how to reach them.

We need to pray that JW's can find the simple truth of eternal life through faith in Christ alone, not by meeting attendance and hours in field service.

NMM

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Can you help?

by NoMoreMeetings in

jw
friends

is anyone on this board available to help an indiana man with a jw child custody case?.

perhaps testifying to the closed jw lifestyle for children?.

pm me if you can.. thanks,.

NoMoreMeetings

Is anyone on this board available to help an Indiana man with a JW child custody case?

Perhaps testifying to the closed JW lifestyle for children?

PM me if you can.

Thanks,

NMM

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Intro

by mavie in

jw
friends

hello from mavie.

currently happily married for a number of years to a great jw wife, i currently serve as an ms in our local kh.

my wife and i have been told we are pillars in the congregation.

NoMoreMeetings

Mavie,

Welcome to the board.

Six years ago I was presiding overseer in a New York congregation.
I was "in the truth" all my life. It got to the point that I could no longer teach
the Watchtower doctrine. What I was taught as a boy, I could not teach as an elder,
because the teachings had changed.

I lost my 16 year old son to leukemia 11 years ago. He refused all blood products. Including the
ones that the Society said were O.K. to take in the June 15, 2000 Watchtower, six years after he died.

Between the doctrine that changed from my youth, to the blood doctrine changes, to the extreme guilt that I had taught
my son to deny medicine which was never really wrong to take in the first place, I begged Jehovah for the truth,
because I realized that what I was teaching from the platform was not really the truth, just changing teachings of men.
The guilt also devastated my wife and seriously affected her health for some time.

Much prayer and a serious study of the Bible in various translations led me to resign as an elder and realize that my
salvation does not come from meeting attendance, field service and association with the Governing Body. Salvation comes
from accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, to the glory of Jehovah. No organization is required.

The joy that has resulted from understanding the simplicity of Christianity, and being able to have a relationship with God through Christ,
has enabled my wife and me to fully recover from the damage caused us by false teaching.

I hope your journey brings relief to you and your wife, as well as a direct relationship with God.

NMM

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question...

by candidlynuts in

jw
friends

in the new testament paul writes letters to congregations.. corinthians, ephesians etc.. .

were these congregations jewish?

had the catholic church been founded yet?

NoMoreMeetings

Last month I toured Israel with 250 Liberty University students.
The dean of the seminary, Dr. Ergun Caner, left Islam as a teenager and accepted Christianity.
He spoke one evening on how Christ came, not to establish religion, but to destroy it!

Organized religion is not necessary for salvation, only faith in Jesus Christ.

A church may accomplish good in the community on its own, but in order for a church to be under the authority of Jesus, the church needs to seek His will by prayer and study in the Bible. The church is directed by Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit. A church will flourish when it recognizes this.

Liturgy and ritual may aid worship for some, but it is not necessary for a person to have a personal relationship with God through Christ.

Churches that are legalistic (like the WT), grieve the Holy Spirit and totally miss the point of serving God and Christ.

To Jesus, there is one church, with one faith, and one hope. It doesn't matter what the name of the church is. Church could be as simple as two gathering together in Jesus' name.

Associating with fellow believers keeps our faith strong, brings God's approval, and provides opportunity to meet the needs of others. (James 1:27)

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question...

by candidlynuts in

jw
friends

in the new testament paul writes letters to congregations.. corinthians, ephesians etc.. .

were these congregations jewish?

had the catholic church been founded yet?

NoMoreMeetings

According to the Nelson Study Bible, Paul was rejected by the Jews after preaching in the synagogue on the Sabbath. He ministered in Corinth for 18 months, eventually establishing a church. This church, like the city, had a mixture of nationalities, Though some Jews had been converted, most of the believers were Gentiles (12:2)

Galatians was not written to one church but "to the churches in Galatia". Galatia was a geographic area in modern Turkey. Jews were part of these churches. Paul's correction in Galatians deals with Judaizers, who were trying to impose the Law, including circumcision, on the Gentiles.

A key verse in Galatians concerning Paul's view of one universal church in 3:28- "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor femane; for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

Paul was teaching the immature church that salvation comes only through the Gospel: faith in Jesus as Lord and Savior brings eternal life.

As for the Catholic church's beginning, it depends on who you ask. The Catholics say the church was founded by Peter in the first century. Others say that the church officially began several hundred years later with Constantine.....etc.

NMM (Pastor Ron)

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How do you feel now that you've left the Watchtower?

by Honesty in

jw
friends

do you have any regrets that you have turned your back on joe hoba by your departure?.

i bet you are shaking in your socks when you reflect on the following spiritual food dispensed by those loving brothers in new york:.

it is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the "slave" as we would to the voice of god, because it is his provision.

NoMoreMeetings

I've been on the most amazing Christian walk since I left.

God has truly answered prayer for me.

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If you still pray, what do you get out of it?

by JH in

jw
friends

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once in a while, not often, i might fell like saying a few words to god in prayer, but i don't do it, knowing that it's a waste of time, because it won't make a difference..

NoMoreMeetings

If you don't think God answers prayer, read the biography of George Muller.

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Just Finished CoC

by lost_light06 in

well, i just finished crisis of conscience (except for the appendix).

really eye opening!

i wasnt sure if i was going to like the chapters describing his expulsion but he seemed to present it fairly and extremely accurately.

NoMoreMeetings

Lost Light,

You have figured out the WT correctly. They are truly responsible for destroying the faith of many.

You may also want to read In Search of Christian Freedom by Ray Franz. It may help you to find the relationship that is available to everyone with the Father and Jesus.

Revelation 3:20 says that if we want Jesus in our life, He is waiting for us to open the door to Him.

I resigned as an elder 4 years ago and have been on a wonderful Christian Journey, outside the framework of organized religion.
I wish you God's blessing on your journey.

NMM

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What is now the most accurate Bible to buy??

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

now that i've read ray franz's part about how his uncle and others with little actual greek or hebrew training translated the bible into the nwt, i've been interested in finding the best bible out there is correctly translated by people who know what the hell they are talking about.

niv?

i've also been looking at other religions lately, ones that are "somewhat" close to the jw's teachings to an extent, and have been interested in seventh day adventists.

NoMoreMeetings

Wing Commander,

I have 3 favorite translations.

The Nelson Study Bible is the New King James Version, and is excellent for
cross references and study information.

The New American Standard Version is one of the most accurate, using
the most recent finds in old manuscripts.

The New Jerusalem is my favorite for just reading.

Also, read others as well. You may like another one better for yourself.

Just avoid the New World Translation. It's a poor excuse for a Bible.

As far as a Church to attend, take up the matter in prayer.

As a heads up, the Seventh Day Adventists share a common beginning with JW's with the
1840's teachings of William Miller, concerning predicting end times.

One sign of a good church is one that is founded on prayer and is free from rules which go beyond the Scriptures.