i've been thinking about this quote (usually attributed to voltaire).
my last employer was never satisfied with good, he always found a way to demand more.
the wtbs has the same problem.
This perfection thing was actually the key to my undoing as a JW. I tend to lean toward perfectionism anyway but the WT totally pushed me over the edge and drove me into a deep depression because I constantly felt that I wasn't good enough.
Now I'm perfectly IMPERFECT and it's the best thing ever.
-Happy
my wife and i have been lurking here for almost three years now and finally decided to join!.
we were in the borg for over twenty years.
we came in together as a couple and we left all together as a family of four.
Welcome Mr. and Mrs. Thor!
Happy
ive been lurking here for the past couple of months since i started researching the organization.
i dont have many people to talk to and its been a saving grace to read your posts.. i dont really know where to start so here i go.
its been a long journey getting here and it looks as if i still have a long ways to go to get somewhere healthy, stable and strong.
Welcome hadit. Love the name, by the way.
-Happy
the content of the program presented at the circuit assembly: safeguard your spirituality served as a re-affirmation that the wt/gb is loosing the grip of rank & file.
they are becoming boulder and boulder in their blatant use of mind control techniques; in my opinion, their mind control techniques used to be more subtle.
but the content of the program in this past assembly clearly reflected that they are acting out of frustration and desperation.
tjlibre,
Thanks so much for the recap! Great details.
happy
i tried to fade off the map by moving 30 miles initially in 2004 after i exited in late 2003 .
the first several years they didn't bother me.
i ran into a elder from my former congregation in late 2005 in an antique store - he tried telling me i was wrong for stopping attending meetings.
Great thread. I just posted my story on Troubled Mind's thread but I think it might get buried there (also, I'm kinda a thread killer). My husband and I have been inactive for 5 years. Two weeks or so two elders stopped by unannounced and tried to get my husband to admit to something that they could df us for. I was busy tending to our two little ones, so I couldn't participate in the meeting (damn!). They're accusing us of the following: christmas lights (I have them up all year long in my kitchen as decoration), celebrating birthdays (this may have come from my facebook page which I have since made completely private), my daughter wearing birthday earrings (she's five and I don't even know what a birthday earring might look like), and worst of all, they accused my husband of making the sign of the cross (like catholics do) at his JW mother's funeral two years ago.
Since that initial visit they've been harassing us nonstop: they've called multiple times, set up meetings at the KH which we didn't attend and last week three of them got my husband while he was out cutting the grass. They even stopped at my BIL's house (he's active, they were unannounced) to try to get information on us!
I don't have any family in, but my husband does. We have no idea how to handle this assault that came, basically, out of nowhere. Oh, and currently they've invited us to another 'meeting' with them after the sunday meeting tomorrow. They're saying 'THIS IS A JUDICIAL MATTER NOW!!!!'. Ugh, this sucks.
Happy
surprised me that he actually followed up on his word and called .
it will be strange after four yrs.
to have them in our house .my husband was not happy to hear it will be two brothers coming over, because he really does not want to feel we are being counseled .
Troubled mind!!! I'm so glad I saw your post! The exact same thing is happening to my husband and I. The elders stopped by without calling first and tried to get us to confess to somthing that they could use to df us. Then when they didn't get anything they stopped by my BIL's house (unannounced also) to grill him for information (he didn't have anything either). They've been harassing us by phone and by visits to our home unannounced. IT'S TERRIBLE!
-Happy (usually)
i've been thinking about why people become jehovah's witnesses and why they remain in the religion.. it seems like almost everything they believe in is flawed.. the chronology, which this religion is founded on is a problem.. their understanding of bible prophecy is pathetically funny.
they teach everything in prophetic bible books ultimately apply to them.. their belief that the "faithful & discreet slave class" exists is ridiculous.
in all fairness, they cannot 'prove" anything they say about their organization as being "truth".
They're enslaved by what 'might' happen if they leave: I was born-in and it was ingraned in me from as long as I can remember that people that leave are worse off than worldly people. So even if you do have doubts you're scared to even let your mind go there for fear you end up a drug addicted alcoholic living under a bridge somewhere.
Happy
at the 2010 "safeguard your spirituality", the co (or do?
) mentioned that there are some theocratic terms that we need to be reminded about.
he gave the example of many years ago when we said we were doing "back calls", but now we say we are doing "return visits".. here's some he mentioned (bad => good):.
Thanks A.Fenderson!!
: ) Happy
at the 2010 "safeguard your spirituality", the co (or do?
) mentioned that there are some theocratic terms that we need to be reminded about.
he gave the example of many years ago when we said we were doing "back calls", but now we say we are doing "return visits".. here's some he mentioned (bad => good):.
REALLY??? Blondie, can you help? I'd love to read about how they justify THAT!
-Happy
at the 2010 "safeguard your spirituality", the co (or do?
) mentioned that there are some theocratic terms that we need to be reminded about.
he gave the example of many years ago when we said we were doing "back calls", but now we say we are doing "return visits".. here's some he mentioned (bad => good):.
What's the deal with no holding hands during prayer? Are you guys serious about that one?
-Happy
