Posts by vinman

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You have to admit, the carrot is pretty alluring.

by John Aquila in

there were several families that were visiting my mom today and i was sitting in and just listening to all of them talk..

they started talking about the recent shooting at the university.

and its so easy for them because all they have to say is;.

vinman

It's funny that we often hear that the witnesses just care about paradise. I don't believe that. It is true that some do, especially the less educated or problem stricken individual. I know people did talk about the hope, but for many of those, the real focus was having love and an awe of the Creator. I know many like myself when I was in, didn't really put faith in the timeline proclamations. We focused on serving Jehovah, and dying "old and satisfied". Many of us "counted our days", wanting to be the best servant of Jehovah as possible. Regardless of what some say, I know for a fact that we would rather study the Draw Close to Jehovah book than a book that just talks about paradise. This type that wakes up, doesn't really have a problem with dying after they leave the organization. Romans, 8:38,39 - "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

by Perry in

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none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

just found out this morning.

vinman

I feel really bad for you. Saying sorry on this forum just doesn't seem to cut it for me. Where is the Christlike love? Just plain wicked!

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For those of you who is contemplating leaving the Borg, consider...

by James Mixon in

i know it's not easy for you to walk it's a big decision, family and etc.. if you are afraid consider this.

i have been here for a few years and i can count on one hand from posters who made the statement, i can't take it anymore, i'm going back.. what is it that members here have given up their family and friends to be free.

is it so we can have sinful fun, we are our own person and no one will tell us what to do?.

vinman

Tenacious: You must have telepathy. I swear you copied and pasted those words from my mind.😊

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For those of you who is contemplating leaving the Borg, consider...

by James Mixon in

i know it's not easy for you to walk it's a big decision, family and etc.. if you are afraid consider this.

i have been here for a few years and i can count on one hand from posters who made the statement, i can't take it anymore, i'm going back.. what is it that members here have given up their family and friends to be free.

is it so we can have sinful fun, we are our own person and no one will tell us what to do?.

vinman

You never want to return because it is soooooo depressing. It is as depressing as attending a small town legislature session or the DMV. With all the undue influence going on it feels dangerous. You remember how "good" you fealt in the past when you were there. But you can't remember whatever made it "good". What was going through your mind? You now know, not much.

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Love is like God.

by The Rebel in

neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.

we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.

however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..

vinman

So from what I read: Atheists and Theists have no reason to argue. It is just a matter of a chemical imbalance. That imbalance is found on the side you choose to disagree with. Like in my opinion Theist= H2O Flowing, life giving, refreshing, useful. Atheist= HO explosive and death dealing.

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Love is like God.

by The Rebel in

neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.

we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.

however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..

vinman

Sabin: Those words were beautiful. True, scientists can tell us the "how", but not the "why". My children are crying becase they desparately want me to love them. I just don't have the time to mess with them. Oh, I forgot, I will just take them to the lab and have them give my children a dose of those "love" chemicals in the syringe. Just saying...

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The End Is Near...

by freemindfade in

so we all know and are seeing that as the org is taking some kind of financial beating it is being interpreted, either by design or not, that armageddon is coming any second now.

well from our vantage point we can see the only end that may be near is for the publishing company itself, wtbts, and not the world.

its sickening to hear loved ones and friends say this, that this means the desert god is coming to wipe out most of humanity.

vinman

The end must be near for Watchtower. Realistically, will they suddenly get an ongoing flow of donations? Will they ever get enough money to complete these projects and call up more volunteers to Bethels? Will the lawsuits just vaporize and allow the Watchtower to regain its "clean standing"? Will the demand for Watchtowers increase so as to need more presses? After seeing these"layoffs" will parents encourage the children to make Bethel a career? Or what about circuit work? We all know the answers. From here on out, money will be the GB theme. I think many will get sick of it. Just how far can they cut back before they vanish? We know they would not do what they are doing because it is some "plan". That is not how you get more converts. That is not how you retain membership. The GB are afraid for themselves. They have nothing without the Watchtower. I mean nothing.

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So sick of the abuse...

by iwasblind in

i am still serving as an elder but just hanging in there.

i think their quandry is that they don't see me out in the field, but when they need encouragement and decent prayer they come to me.. i just got off the phone to this poor sister who i have only met twice.

she is not even in my congregation (her sister is).

vinman

iwasblind, I hear you loud and clear. This is my opinion. I think when you get to a point like yourself, it is time to to discern who to share TTATT with. It sounds like she is ripe for it. I have shared TTATT with some and asked that it remain between us. If she mentioned not having to earn God's love, she is definitely ready to hear the real and beautiful word of God.

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The new changes is a clear indication that we are one step closer to the end...

by RobertT18 in

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that was today's topic over a group chat of my cong's young jbots.

apparently the rumors are circulating everywhere i go, even people from the spanish congs are talking about it.

what's really sad is that the majority of people are already seeing this as "clear" signs of the end coming.

vinman

The Watchtower has always said the end is near. But they have never stopped building projects and made such a pronouncement. It is hard for us out here to comprehend how anyone can take this seriously. However, the fact that they will stop projects to "focus on the preaching work", will as RobertT18 said, will put many in "cult mode". They will say, "it must be true this time, because they have never done this".But as time passes, and nothing happens. I believe some of them will wake up.

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Remember when you could wear casual clothes to the congregation book study?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i would get home from work,eat dinner,shower and put on jeans,a shirt and gym shoes to the book study.

then,one day a letter was read where men would need to wear a suit and tie and the woman would have to wear dresses.

it was stated in a letter that the change was due to, '' giving a better witness to anyone who would watch us walking into our local congregation or a neighbor's house.''.

vinman

Yep. In the 70's, early 80's, you could. Heck, I wore a Fender guitar t-shirt.