Posts by Jeffro

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Even MORE evidence for "Jesus died on a Cross"?

by ILoveTTATT in

i like jwfact's http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/cross-or-stake.php.

it would probably be interesting to add the information found in this article:.

http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/crucifixion/the-staurogram/.

Jeffro

Comatose:

Jeffro - have you read his book?

I have not.

That's exactly what he says. He thinks a guy named Jesus lived and was a leader type, but none if the miraculous stuff happened.

It's a fairly logical conclusion to arrive at.

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Even MORE evidence for "Jesus died on a Cross"?

by ILoveTTATT in

i like jwfact's http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/cross-or-stake.php.

it would probably be interesting to add the information found in this article:.

http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/crucifixion/the-staurogram/.

Jeffro

slimboyfat:

Agreement on the existence of Jesus seems to be pretty unanimous among actual academics in biblical studies.

There's a good degree of scholarly agreement that there was probably some guy named (Anglicised as) 'Jesus' who was a bit of a political revolutionary. There's no evidence about the magical stories about Jesus in the Bible.

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Even MORE evidence for "Jesus died on a Cross"?

by ILoveTTATT in

i like jwfact's http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/cross-or-stake.php.

it would probably be interesting to add the information found in this article:.

http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/crucifixion/the-staurogram/.

Jeffro

There barely any evidence Jesus existed at all, and no contemporary evidence, so I think it's a bit of a stretch to say there's much evidence that he died on a cross.

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Upcoming KM!! Why we are not False Prophets!

by DATA-DOG in

this subject is coming up this month in the tms.

i just thought i would start a post for newbies or lurkers.

if you have any scans of the awake inside cover that would be awesome.

Jeffro

Splash:

The other removal of "20th Century" was from the Revelation Climax book:

See http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/156732/1/Revelation-Its-Grand-Climax-Adjusted

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Upcoming KM!! Why we are not False Prophets!

by DATA-DOG in

this subject is coming up this month in the tms.

i just thought i would start a post for newbies or lurkers.

if you have any scans of the awake inside cover that would be awesome.

Jeffro

Heartofaboy:

The trouble is unless the original books & magazines are kept the sheeples will only have the airbrushed CD versions where anything embarrassing to the GB is removed with no reference to what they originally printed.

The text in the CD version of the magazines is no different to what is released in the bound volumes. However, the bound volumes sometimes differ from what was originally published in the first run of the magazine.

The other books on the CD have the same text as the latest printing of the physical book, which sometimes have mundane (e.g. Knowledge) or significant (Revelation) changes from the original printing.

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My daughter got her A Levels yesterday and is off to university in September

by Xanthippe in

jw
friends

she took english, maths and physics and acheived a* a* and a. .

it is the best thing possible for me, even better than seeing her opening birthday presents or the day she won the halloween fancy dress prize at school.. her dad died five years ago but she has coped and done so well at school.

it has shown me that despite what happens in life you can still do well and reach your goals, especially if you take a cult upbringing out of the equation!

Jeffro

Xanthippe:

My daughter got her A Levels yesterday and is off to university in September

Sorry to hear that. You must be so disappointed that she isn't using her youth to pioneer.

(Congratutions. )

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Upcoming KM!! Why we are not False Prophets!

by DATA-DOG in

this subject is coming up this month in the tms.

i just thought i would start a post for newbies or lurkers.

if you have any scans of the awake inside cover that would be awesome.

Jeffro

DATA-DOG (quoting Reasoning from the Scriptures):

They have made mistakes. Like the apostles of Jesus Christ, they have at times had some wrong expectations.

They actually employ an appeal to authority about 'the apostles' to 'justify' their errors.

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More fear and paranoia WT-style! (11/15/13 WT)

by LostGeneration in

i usually dismiss the "drinking the kool aid" scenarios that are posted from time to time, but the latest wt has another bit of fearmongering.

the quote from page 20, para 17. elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.

(2) when the assyrian attacks, the elders must be absolutely convinced that jehovah will deliver us.

Jeffro

DATA-DOG:

Who is the Assyrian supposed to be anyway?

The Watchtower, 15 November 2013, page 20:

In the near future, Jehovah’s apparently vulnerable people will come under attack from the modern-day “Assyrian,” whose intent will be to wipe them out. The Scriptures refer to that attack as well as the attack of ‘Gog of Magog,’ the attack of “the king of the north,” and the attack of “the kings of the earth.” (Ezek. 38:2, 10-13; Dan. 11:40, 44, 45; Rev. 17:14; 19:19) Do these represent separate attacks? Not necessarily. The Bible could be referring to the same attack under different names.

So basically, "the Assyrian" is any and all authority structures that challenge JWs.

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More fear and paranoia WT-style! (11/15/13 WT)

by LostGeneration in

i usually dismiss the "drinking the kool aid" scenarios that are posted from time to time, but the latest wt has another bit of fearmongering.

the quote from page 20, para 17. elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.

(2) when the assyrian attacks, the elders must be absolutely convinced that jehovah will deliver us.

Jeffro

It strikes me that their publication of obvious paranoid propaganda like this is probably written to make governments suspicious of their activities. This may be their attempt at a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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WT November 15, 2013 on jw.org

by Gayle in

how can we maintain.

a waiting attitude?

article,,just to wait and wait and wait.

Jeffro

w87 12/1 p. 30 "Unlike the churches of Christendom, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not take up collections or send out envelopes to solicit donations."

I don't have any first hand experience with the churches of 'Christendom', so let me know if I'm wrong.

Catholic friends of mine tell me that there are collections for the Church and the local parish, and it's not mandatory to make a contribution. I don't really agree with giving money to a church that already has quite a lot of money already, but giving to the local parish, to support upkeep of the buildings as well as other events (many of which are charitable) seems fine to me. And their method of collecting seems to me to involve a better sense of 'community' than the JW way, which (like most JW things) seems to be much more corporatised.