Posts by Jeffro

The claim that 'God' (and the redundantly capitalised 'Himself') 'always existed' relies on belief in stories written by primitive tribesmen, which have been subsequently retconned by modern believers. Belief in the god of the Bible - a complex vindictive magical alien who requires worship - isn't even a reasonable alternative to the universe arising from nothing.

Positing the God of the Bible as the only possible alternative to the universe arising from 'nothing' is also a pathetic false dichotomy that ignores other scenarios, such as that the universe always* existed (for example, multiple big bang - big crunch scenarios), or that our universe is one in a larger multiverse, or even that there was a 'creator' (sentient or not) that may or may not still exist and that doesn't care about selfish human desires for 'worship'.
*The more widely accepted theories about the beginning of the universe indicate that time didn't exist independently from the start of the universe, so there actually was no 'before'.

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1914 not Christ's Return anymore?

by pacloc in

looking at the public dec 2013 watchtower under bible questions answered it looks like they are saying that the invisible return of christ is completely in the future.

i thought that they always said it started in 1914?

am i reading this wrong?.

Jeffro

Me:

Since at least 2006, the future return also marks the beginning of 'separating the sheep and the goats'.

1995

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1914 not Christ's Return anymore?

by pacloc in

looking at the public dec 2013 watchtower under bible questions answered it looks like they are saying that the invisible return of christ is completely in the future.

i thought that they always said it started in 1914?

am i reading this wrong?.

Jeffro

In weird JW theology, Jesus presence (since 1914) isn't the same as his return when he is "coming quickly" (a future 'judgement'). The future coming is intended to be the climax of his presence and marks the beginning of the 'Great Tribulation'.* Since at least 2006, the future return also marks the beginning of 'separating the sheep and the goats'.
* Note that this is quite different to what Charles Taze Russell taught. He believed that Christ had returned in 1874, and that the 'Great Tribulation' would begin in 1914.

JW theology is a bit like quantum physics. If you're not confused, you don't really understand it.

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Recent Global Cooling Controversy

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.

climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.

however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!

Jeffro

mP:

I prefer text because its easy to read and quote, videos are a bit harder and not quite as easy to quote.

Surely a wizard like yourself can type a paragraph. I wnt you to type the text here, so i can reply here in writing.

Who cares what you prefer?! You can barely go a sentence without showing yourself to be an insulting arrogant fool.

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Recent Global Cooling Controversy

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.

climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.

however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!

Jeffro

mP:

Can you actually contribute on something thats a little more intelligent than the gutter that you woke up from. Clean that shit off your face and change your flee infested clothes, get an education and then come back here. I would also suggest that you hang out with some of the kids at your school that have progressed from painting with shite from their pants and hang out with the smart kids.

When are you going to address those replies, or have the kids that do your home work at school gone to toilet again ?

Yet again another post filled with insults. At best y9ou have made one attempt at actually linking to something worth looking at, the remainder of your replies are garbage. And yes i did write that up, then i thought i wont lower myself to your three brain cell level.

Oh, the irony. Idiot.

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Recent Global Cooling Controversy

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.

climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.

however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!

Jeffro

mP:

I asked about the changing temps over the past 5000 years, but you skipped that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC_2WXyORGA

Keep watching the damned video until you understand the subject a little better. That's if you bothered to watch it the first time. I'm not doing your homework for you.

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Recent Global Cooling Controversy

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.

climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.

however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!

Jeffro

mP:

Can you actually contribute on something thats a little more intelligent than the gutter that you woke up from. Clean that shit off your face and change your flee infested clothes, get an education and then come back here. I would also suggest that you hang out with some of the kids at your school that have progressed from painting with shite from their pants and hang out with the smart kids.

Idiot.

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Recent Global Cooling Controversy

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.

climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.

however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!

Jeffro

mP:

bah just a typo

mP claims it was "just a typo" that he consistently typed besty's username as "betsy", yet up to that point he had not typed it correctly even once in the entire thread. I don't buy it.

Back on topic, mP trawls out the usual attempts to simplify climate change. He clearly did not watch - or did not understand - the video I posted early in this thread.

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Recent Global Cooling Controversy

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.

climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.

however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!

Jeffro

mP:

You telling big fat lies like your father Satan the Devil !!!

Idiot.