Posts by Jeffro

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BEHOLD! THE GRAND CLIMAX IS AT HAND!

by Brother Mike in

dear friends of jwn,.

the time is now.

it is time to prepare for the "grand climax".

Jeffro

Stand for Pure Worship:

I swear there is no other group of people that scream more false alarms and predictions than the ex-JW community.

That's hilarious coming from a JW.

But it's even funnier because the post isn't a prediction. It is advice. The "GRAND CLIMAX" is merely a rhetorical device in reference to what the result would be if a great number of questioning JWs followed the advice. You apparently lack comprehension skills.

Still no comments from you to defend the JW interpretation of Jeremiah 29:10...

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IS it possible that Paul was just a failed Pharisee that

by confusedandalone in

jw
friends

saw an opening?.

if we look at christianity it appears that pauls teaching are what formulate it and not jesus.

paul often contradicts the words that are "supposedly" spoken by jesus repeatedly.

Jeffro

confusedandalone:

saw an opening?

Absolutely.

The stories about Jesus were cobbled together from earlier myths from other civilisations along with supposed 'fulfilments' of 'prophecies' (many of which were never even intended as 'prophecies' at all).

Paul came along, co-opted stories about Jesus and shoe-horned in his own teachings into his new quasi-Judaism. (It's probably more correct to say he shoe-horned stuff about Jesus into his own teachings.)

Centuries later, the Romans saw 'Christianity' as a means to maintain control of the empire.

And here we are.

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Is the WTS backing away from "Bible Tall Tales" ?

by Simon in

when i was a kid, it seemed like not a meeting went by when you didn't hear about jonah or sampson and other tall tales from the bible.. now though, they seem to have been sidelined.

i guess the rest of the world caught on to the fact that these stories couldn't possibly be true and were so far fetched (yeah, even by bible standards) that they are just treated as 'stories' like aesop's fables.

saying that you believe in them as genuine accounts just makes you look like a crazy zealot.. but the wts is different.

Jeffro

jam:

Ex-brother-in law, while traveling in the Grand Canyon how can anyone not believe there wasn't a great flood. This man attended college.

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing he didn't study geology.

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Well it is time for me to say GOODBYE!!!

by mouthy in

it has been nice talking with you.but i seem to upset a few because of my faith.. so have a great christmas.... & be good, i wont be here to send you to your rooms .

i have grown close to many of you.... if i have ever said anything to hurt you sorry!!!!.

when i kick the bucket i am sure "mary" who ssometimes post will let you know.. mouthy grace gough.

Jeffro

mouthy:

It has been nice talking with you.But I seem to upset a few because of my faith.

That's not a good reason to leave.

If some people are 'upset' by your faith, they should be big enough and ugly enough to deal with it.

You're outspoken, and rightfully so, and I'm a little surprised that you would be dissuaded from the forum by others who are also outspoken.

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Is the WTS backing away from "Bible Tall Tales" ?

by Simon in

when i was a kid, it seemed like not a meeting went by when you didn't hear about jonah or sampson and other tall tales from the bible.. now though, they seem to have been sidelined.

i guess the rest of the world caught on to the fact that these stories couldn't possibly be true and were so far fetched (yeah, even by bible standards) that they are just treated as 'stories' like aesop's fables.

saying that you believe in them as genuine accounts just makes you look like a crazy zealot.. but the wts is different.

Jeffro

Comatose:

And the spies got to stay with a prostitute. I remember even as a fully in young witness thinking those spies probably saw some action.

Yeah, but there were two spies. So there was never a man and a woman left alone together. What could possibly go wrong?

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Is the WTS backing away from "Bible Tall Tales" ?

by Simon in

when i was a kid, it seemed like not a meeting went by when you didn't hear about jonah or sampson and other tall tales from the bible.. now though, they seem to have been sidelined.

i guess the rest of the world caught on to the fact that these stories couldn't possibly be true and were so far fetched (yeah, even by bible standards) that they are just treated as 'stories' like aesop's fables.

saying that you believe in them as genuine accounts just makes you look like a crazy zealot.. but the wts is different.

Jeffro

jgnat:

They started in the 15th century, BC, as a reaction to oppressive Muslim rule.

Muslims. In the 15th century BC. That seems... unlikely.

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Is the WTS backing away from "Bible Tall Tales" ?

by Simon in

when i was a kid, it seemed like not a meeting went by when you didn't hear about jonah or sampson and other tall tales from the bible.. now though, they seem to have been sidelined.

i guess the rest of the world caught on to the fact that these stories couldn't possibly be true and were so far fetched (yeah, even by bible standards) that they are just treated as 'stories' like aesop's fables.

saying that you believe in them as genuine accounts just makes you look like a crazy zealot.. but the wts is different.

Jeffro

Comatose:

No witness I know thinks the earth is 6,000 yrs old.

It's unlikely that many do believe that. It's not an official teaching.

The official teaching 'generously' says that the creative days (combined) may be "many thousands" (but never "millions" or "billions") of years. (There has never actually been any statement from the Watch Tower Society explicitly countering the old claim that each 'creative day' was 7000 years, but it's no longer explicitly stated.) However, the planet itself is supposed to have been created prior to those.

The JW website claims that JWs are not "creationists" because they don't consider the 'creative days' to be literal 24-hour days like "some creationists" do. They completely ignore the fact that they are in fact "day-age creationists".

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Is the WTS backing away from "Bible Tall Tales" ?

by Simon in

when i was a kid, it seemed like not a meeting went by when you didn't hear about jonah or sampson and other tall tales from the bible.. now though, they seem to have been sidelined.

i guess the rest of the world caught on to the fact that these stories couldn't possibly be true and were so far fetched (yeah, even by bible standards) that they are just treated as 'stories' like aesop's fables.

saying that you believe in them as genuine accounts just makes you look like a crazy zealot.. but the wts is different.

Jeffro

mouthy:

The Devil, killed more than that in one hour in the Philliphanins the other day!!!!

No, mouthy. Just, no.

Even a Bible-believing Christian should know better than that. See Ecclesiastes 9:11.

There. There's your stoning.

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Emergency relief fund for the Philippines. How will it work.

by joe134cd in

i was just thinking it will be interesting to see how the wts emergency relief fund will operate in the philippines.

ok it worked well with the storm in florida, with cashing in on the insurance cheques.

sorry to generalize, but americans have the disposable income, and the insurance polices for things like this - a thing the wtbts finds very attractive.

Jeffro

Stand for Pure Worship (quoting the JW Office of Public Information):

The local Witnesses also reached out to their neighbors, offering them aid and spiritual comfort.

Well if they said it, it must be true.

Even though there's no indication of just what was done to help. And it would be nice to see some third-party corroboration of just what aid they provided.

I suppose one is to presume that 'spiritual comfort' = JW preaching (and counting time). I wonder if JWs give freebies (i.e. not counting time) to disaster victims.

The home of one Witness family sustained roof damage, and fellow congregation members assisted with repairs.

So some JWs helped someone - ostensibly, a 'friend' - to fix that one family's roof? That isn't peculiar to JWs. Friends help each other. It's not really even slightly remarkable. Now, it might be charitable if they then helped other people with their repairs as well.

Reminds me of Matthew 5:46-47.

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Emergency relief fund for the Philippines. How will it work.

by joe134cd in

i was just thinking it will be interesting to see how the wts emergency relief fund will operate in the philippines.

ok it worked well with the storm in florida, with cashing in on the insurance cheques.

sorry to generalize, but americans have the disposable income, and the insurance polices for things like this - a thing the wtbts finds very attractive.

Jeffro

emeth:

@jeffro the 6% growth was the percentage of growth of just one year, last year. But you can check more yearbooks and see that their growth after the earthquake is high

The earthquake was in 2010. There was not astronomical growth in the other two years. You're just wrong.