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  Babylon not rebuilt....B S

  by Skinnedsheep in

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  i always accepted that babylon was simply a pile of ruins miles from anything and inhabited only by goats.

  this is one of the proofs that witnesses use for bible accuracy and prophecy.. if you are interested check out ancient babylon on google maps.

  it is about 3 miles from the city of hillah which is 380,000+ people.

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  Elijehovah:

  Babylon is one of a million cities permanently destroyed because city building destroys the land for farming, or even for city trees. The best example of cities that havent destroyed ecology is tropics where jungle will always dominate and take over any junk and trash of a city. Takes lots of rain and lots of heat.

  Babylon isn't anywhere near a jungle... seems like you're building up to say something stupid and irrelevant...

  It does prove 1000 years of a water canopy can reverse all things, but it would take an asteroid in the Pacific ocean to put one back up.

  Oh dear.
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  Babylon not rebuilt....B S

  by Skinnedsheep in

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  i always accepted that babylon was simply a pile of ruins miles from anything and inhabited only by goats.

  this is one of the proofs that witnesses use for bible accuracy and prophecy.. if you are interested check out ancient babylon on google maps.

  it is about 3 miles from the city of hillah which is 380,000+ people.

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  Jeffro

  Yep. The ancient 'uninhabited' 'ruins' of Babylon is actually just a small protected area only a few hundred metres (about a quarter-mile) across.
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  How Jehovah's Witnesses benefit those humble enough to study the Bible with them.

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

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  excellent material can be found within the reasoning book, page 328, para.2, 3. occasionally, i see posters make presumptuous comments like, "all you need is the bible", or, "i'm born-again, so there's no need for spiritual assistance from another christian", or,"i'm saved", or my favorite, "jesus talks to me directly.

  " on one hand, i can't be overly critical of such ones because they do attempt to read and understand the bible on their own.

  (acts 17:11) not to mention they're generally peaceable folks, just self-misguided when erroneously believing that they can go it alone.

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  Jeffro

  As indicated in the misguided post itself, JWs don't study the Bible with their victims. They study Watch Tower Society publications, which cherry-pick scriptures to suit their own doctrinal bias. Scriptures that are problematic for their doctrines are simply avoided.

  As I and others have proven many times, the entire basis for the Watch Tower Society's claim of authority is based on lies, because it is a simple fact that their beliefs about the years 607 BCE and 1914—which are crucial in the JWs' doctrinal framework—are entirely wrong.
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  Question for people more intelligent than me

  by Monsieur in

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  do we have concrete evidence of how the pyramids at giza were built?.

  or is this still an unexplained 'mystery'?.

  i've read that the stones used to build these things are monolithic?.

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  Monsieur:

  Do we have CONCRETE evidence of how the pyramids at Giza were built?

  Obviously, it involves time travel, and a very large 3D-printer (3D-printer polymer was much cheaper back then). Bible Students (whom Jehovah's Witnesses pretend no longer exist) from the 30th century took (will take) Russell's measurements of a drawing of the pyramid (in 'pyramid inches') and multiplied the figures to determine the actual size of the pyramid. These plans and the very very large 3D-printer (patent pending) were taken back in time (patent pending). After the Stone Witness™ was completed, the Bible Students and the 3-D printer were no longer seen. Because God took them. In his mercy.

  Another theory is that it was done by lots and lots of slaves using ramps and pulleys. But that's just crazy.
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  Question for people more intelligent than me

  by Monsieur in

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  do we have concrete evidence of how the pyramids at giza were built?.

  or is this still an unexplained 'mystery'?.

  i've read that the stones used to build these things are monolithic?.

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  Jeffro

  Thanks to Elijehovah, my BS-detector just went off the scale. And then exploded.
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  I'm Returing To Become A Jehovah's Witness Again

  by Space Madness in

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  a little background, i faded in 2007 and have been out ever since.

  i started studying at 18 and have no jw realitives.

  i'm returing because my life is heading in the wrong direction.

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  Space Madness:

  What's better? To be conditionally loved by many, or to not be loved by anyone?

  False dichotomy. Take the third option.
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  Ok, now I know why you atheists get so spittin' mad at some believers.

  by Julia Orwell in

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  cuz they feel like they're banging their heads against a wall.. i don't really fall into the category of atheist or believer, but i'll go where the facts lead me.

  that generally leads to atheism, and is why atheists end up getting mad and therefore rude at believers: they will lay out facts, raise questions, play devil's advocate, and reason in an evidence-based, structured way.

  i've seen it many times before on this forum.

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  Vidiot:

  There was a little Awake! piece that touched on the subject back in the mid-90s, if remember right.

  There was an Awake! article about 'cavemen' in 1981 (already quoted above) that briefly dicussed Neanderthals, and Awake! gave Neanderthals a passing mention in a Watching the World segment in 2011.

  Nothing in the mid-90s. Maybe you're talking about the subject of evolution more broadly?
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  I'm Returing To Become A Jehovah's Witness Again

  by Space Madness in

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  a little background, i faded in 2007 and have been out ever since.

  i started studying at 18 and have no jw realitives.

  i'm returing because my life is heading in the wrong direction.

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  Space Madness:

  I left intially because of doctrinal issues. Since I no longer believe in the Bible, those issues no longer matter.

  If doctrinal issues don't matter to you, and you want to be part of a group for social reasons and improve your life, you would be better off joining a community group, ideally one that helps others.

  If you don't believe in the bible, returning to a high-control religion is not going to make you feel better.
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  I'm Returing To Become A Jehovah's Witness Again

  by Space Madness in

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  a little background, i faded in 2007 and have been out ever since.

  i started studying at 18 and have no jw realitives.

  i'm returing because my life is heading in the wrong direction.

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  Space Madness:

  Although I no longer believe in the Bible, the atmosphere and positive association will help me become the person I use to be. My life is all negative now and I need something positive to balance it out.

  If your life feels 'all negative', it might help to talk to a doctor or counsellor. Assess whether everything really is 'negative', or if you're suffering from depression.

  It would be a basic fallacy to assume that 'being a JW' (especially if you realise it's not true) will make you 'happy', and association with JWs is far from the only way to 'balance' your life. There's nothing unique about being a JW that makes people happy, so you should be able to make whatever changes are required without needing that crutch.

  Given the peer pressure to conform among JWs, it will almost certainly make you unhappy if you go along with 'preaching' a message you don't believe. JWs tend to focus on all the negative things in 'the world', so associating with them isn't likely to make you feel more positive, especially if you recognise that their only sense of 'hope' is based on lies.
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  Ok, now I know why you atheists get so spittin' mad at some believers.

  by Julia Orwell in

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  cuz they feel like they're banging their heads against a wall.. i don't really fall into the category of atheist or believer, but i'll go where the facts lead me.

  that generally leads to atheism, and is why atheists end up getting mad and therefore rude at believers: they will lay out facts, raise questions, play devil's advocate, and reason in an evidence-based, structured way.

  i've seen it many times before on this forum.

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  jonahstourguide:

  I note that in your comment on the question in lf p 28 q 4 you only quote part of the printed answer.

  I quoted what was sufficient to make my point about the contrast to the older Awake!

  I have not checked the context of the original sources, but whether they were taken out of context is outside the scope of the comparison I provided.